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Old 07-03-2023 | 06:55 PM
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Originally Posted by Raman
As I write this, I’m a few sheets to the wind, so forgive me mods, I’ll try to be polite as possible.

if your track requires you to run the USGT motor, and you’re one of those that paid to change the screws, swapped the bearings, had someone tune your sensors, to gain the upper hand, when you’re driving skills are what are holding you back… you’re a bloody arsehole (uk spelling hopefully will make it more polite). Accept that fact and bugger (uk) off
My son just won the 2023 Roar Nationals USGT Fwd paved and came in second in 4wd using untouched off the shelf motors
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Old 07-03-2023 | 07:19 PM
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Originally Posted by Marcos.J
all that motor tuning advantage just to lose it all when they smack the pipe on turn 2
Wait a damn minute...who are these cheaters getting all the way to turn 2?
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Old 07-04-2023 | 08:32 AM
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Originally Posted by gigaplex

liverc.com, ctrlsport.com, pullstart.tv after just a couple seconds of searching.
Come on now. All 3 of those sites are RC sites and they are nothing like racer.com, nothing and you clinging on to RC being a motorsport just because some 1:1 guys race, dude are you serious, you are really reaching. By the way this is Tony Stewart's company, 1:1 racers do enjoy RC, no denying that. Next time you find yourself on the grid at a race, please while video is rolling start a conversation with some drivers regarding this subject, I'd love to see their responses, I'm betting it will make for some great comedy.

What glennhl stated was spot on. RC is a good tool for hand eye coordination and to learn the basics of how to set up a 1:1 car without taking risk. Do you also think playing video games like Gran Turismo and driving sims is motorsport as well?

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Old 07-04-2023 | 08:54 AM
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Originally Posted by MULMZ2
Come on now. All 3 of those sites are RC sites and they are nothing like racer.com, nothing and you clinging on to RC being a motorsport just because some 1:1 guys race, dude are you serious, you are really reaching. By the way this is Tony Stewart's company, 1:1 racers do enjoy RC, no denying that. Next time you find yourself on the grid at a race, please while video is rolling start a conversation with some drivers regarding this subject, I'd love to see their responses, I'm betting it will make for some great comedy.

What glennhl stated was spot on. RC is a good tool for hand eye coordination and to learn the basics of how to set up a 1:1 car without taking risk. Do you also think playing video games like Gran Turismo and driving sims is motorsport as well?
You asked for sites like it that covered RC racing. Those are sites that are like that website that cover RC racing. You didn't mention they have to be 1:1 focused websites that also feature RC racing. Stop moving the goalposts. BTW at least one of the sites I mentioned does also feature 1:1 racing.

At least one motorsports governing body has declared Sim racing as an official motorsport.

https://www.supercars.net/blog/sim-racing-now-an-official-motorsports-discipline/

You still haven't answered my question. I asked you what your definition is. All you're doing is saying "no it isn't".
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Old 07-04-2023 | 09:24 AM
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https://www.dictionary.com/browse/motorsports
https://dictionary.cambridge.org/dic...ish/motorsport
https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/motorsport
https://www.lawinsider.com/dictionary/motorsport
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Old 07-04-2023 | 09:38 AM
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None of these definitions of motorsport even mention motor screws, ferrous or otherwise. Scandalous. Come to think of it:



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Old 07-04-2023 | 11:21 AM
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Definition of an RC car: “an electronically controlled miniature auto, airplane, or other vehicles that usually operates within a radio-transmitter’s range” in other words, RC cars are not considered vehicles, and actually considered as toys,

Not that I care really but Motorsports use "motor vehicle" as part or the definition, R/C cars are not considered vehicles.... I race because I enjoy it, I'd much rather race in ISMA but R/C is a tad closer to my budget limits.... either way bitching at each other over an opinion is wasting time, try helping each other to be better at our hobby which is as niche as you get....
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Old 07-04-2023 | 11:33 AM
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I'm just finding all this quite fascinating. An activity with paid drivers, a sanctioning and ruling body, multiple classes, marshalls either paid or as volunteers, a high degree of mental acuity needed, an extensive amount of support equipment needed, sponsorships from various companies, travel expenses, and it's not a motorsport because... people can't get in the cars?

Okay. Because at this point, it becomes semantics. *shrug*
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Old 07-04-2023 | 11:43 AM
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Yeah kinda, I don't think that takes anything from the talent, skill, and dedication needed not by a long shot. The one main difference is my life and health are not in peril when I race R/C cars..... can't say that when you are in the car, bike or boat....
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Old 07-04-2023 | 01:37 PM
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Originally Posted by RKeasler
Yeah kinda, I don't think that takes anything from the talent, skill, and dedication needed not by a long shot. The one main difference is my life and health are not in peril when I race R/C cars..... can't say that when you are in the car, bike or boat....
And yet I know someone who got a concussion marshalling 1/8 e buggies... You take one to the head just right and your life maybe in peril. This is one of the biggest reasons I will have nothing to do with 1/8 scale. I'll agree that the racing part isn't life threatening, but marshalling, I have seen quite a few injuries and rolled an ankle myself once or twice.
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Old 07-04-2023 | 02:54 PM
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Originally Posted by RKeasler
Definition of an RC car: “an electronically controlled miniature auto, airplane, or other vehicles that usually operates within a radio-transmitter’s range” in other words, RC cars are not considered vehicles, and actually considered as toys,

Not that I care really but Motorsports use "motor vehicle" as part or the definition, R/C cars are not considered vehicles.... I race because I enjoy it, I'd much rather race in ISMA but R/C is a tad closer to my budget limits.... either way bitching at each other over an opinion is wasting time, try helping each other to be better at our hobby which is as niche as you get....
Er, your definition literally used the word "vehicle" before you said they're not vehicles.
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Old 07-04-2023 | 03:24 PM
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Yeah.... I hear ya
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Old 07-04-2023 | 04:13 PM
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Originally Posted by gigaplex
You asked for sites like it that covered RC racing. Those are sites that are like that website that cover RC racing. You didn't mention they have to be 1:1 focused websites that also feature RC racing. Stop moving the goalposts. BTW at least one of the sites I mentioned does also feature 1:1 racing.
No that is not at all what I was asking for, you misunderstood the point I was making (I didn't think I had to be specific, I assumed that people would figure out I wanted examples of other websites that focus on 1:1, my bad) and the question you asked was answered in one of my posts and I see others have answered it as well. At this point I am done with this conversation, it is derailing this thread, but I will add this IF RC was anything like motorsports the people altering spec parts would be warned, suspended, and then banned, but none of that is happening, so what was that about a sanctioning body you were saying, because from where I'm standing it's kinda pointless to have one if penalties aren't being handed out and rules aren't being enforced. I really don't understand why people choose to race a spec class and decide that it's ok to alter things that are meant to be spec, which keeps costs down and keeps it competitive. If you want to play around with motor and esc settings, race another class or 3 make a class right, start a new class.

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Old 07-04-2023 | 04:17 PM
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Omg..reading theese made me realize how bad dictionary definitions can be.

I personally consider RC racing as a model motorsport (same as IFMAR). So at the end of the day, model motorsport....is one kind of motorsport (IMO).
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Old 07-04-2023 | 04:26 PM
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Originally Posted by MULMZ2
IF RC was anything like motorsports the people altering spec parts would be warned, suspended, and then banned, but none of that is happening
So you're saying that 1:1 racing wasn't a motorsport when the governing bodies weren't able to warn, suspend and then ban cheaters?

And if IFMAR would warn, suspend and ban a cheater, then RC racing would become a motorsport?
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