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Old 07-07-2021 | 06:02 PM
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Originally Posted by hanulec
sounds like a roche car
Yes, but less pretentious.
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Old 07-07-2021 | 06:08 PM
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looking ahead to onroad carpet racing this year, whats a good class/ scale to get in to?
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Old 07-07-2021 | 06:10 PM
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Originally Posted by bradlee1212
looking ahead to onroad carpet racing this year, whats a good class/ scale to get in to?
For a new racer, it really is a "follow the crowd" thing. Joining the most popular class will help you get experience.
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Old 07-07-2021 | 07:01 PM
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Old 07-07-2021 | 07:10 PM
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Originally Posted by bradlee1212
looking ahead to onroad carpet racing this year, whats a good class/ scale to get in to?
See what classes are run at the track.
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Old 07-07-2021 | 08:46 PM
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Originally Posted by phatboislim
I know it'd be a learning curve for me to figure out the VSS, I guess my biggest question is does it generate more entry steering than the classic crc front end. On a small track I've seen the difference between my car and others that the entry in my crc is lacking. This is after yrs of owning and loving my crc. Now that I'm trying to elevate to compete with some of the faster folks I see where my car is lacking. I honestly don't want to leave crc for xray because all xray does is release a new $400 12th scale every yr and I'm not tryna start that money pit
I could never say that definitively. Entry, initial, turn in, response, whatever you call it means something different to everyone. What I can say is that everything is compromise. To increase initial steering without increasing overall steering is done by adding steering on the “weight transfer” phase and removing steering on the “unloading” phase. Maybe it’s as easy as more toe out, or adding some preload to the side springs.

I’d actually recommend trying the xenon new old skool front end. It’s a nice change from typical reactive styles and provides a very different overall feel of the car. Generally it’s easier to get a ton of steering before the car starts doing weird stuff.
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Old 07-07-2021 | 09:23 PM
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Or just a hold AE front end
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Old 07-07-2021 | 10:19 PM
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Originally Posted by gubbs3
I could never say that definitively. Entry, initial, turn in, response, whatever you call it means something different to everyone. What I can say is that everything is compromise. To increase initial steering without increasing overall steering is done by adding steering on the “weight transfer” phase and removing steering on the “unloading” phase. Maybe it’s as easy as more toe out, or adding some preload to the side springs.

I’d actually recommend trying the xenon new old skool front end. It’s a nice change from typical reactive styles and provides a very different overall feel of the car. Generally it’s easier to get a ton of steering before the car starts doing weird stuff.
You realize Speed Merchant has been developing a "New Old School Front End" for a number of years?
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Old 07-08-2021 | 01:14 AM
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Originally Posted by ckrell
Removing weight from the front of your car will make it turn.
I always assumed that weight in the front would help with what I was wanting but I'm willing to test it out
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Old 07-08-2021 | 04:31 AM
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[QUOTE=gubbs3;15803327]I could never say that definitively. Entry, initial, turn in, response, whatever you call it means something different to everyone. What I can say is that everything is compromise. To increase initial steering without increasing overall steering is done by adding steering on the “weight transfer” phase and removing steering on the “unloading” phase. Maybe it’s as easy as more toe out, or adding some preload to the side springs.

I’d actually recommend trying the xenon new old skool front end. It’s a nice change from typical reactive styles and provides a very different overall feel of the car. Generally it’s easier to get a ton of steering before the car starts doing weird

rcscrapyard.net has handling tips that may help you

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Old 07-08-2021 | 04:35 AM
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rcscrapyard.net has handling tips that may help understand what is going on with your car.
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Old 07-08-2021 | 09:05 PM
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Originally Posted by Almost
rcscrapyard.net has handling tips that may help understand what is going on with your car.
Lots of great sites out there.

RC Racing TV did a great job covering the last 12th Worlds.

Check out a great qualifying battle around 1:53:00 in this coverage:
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Old 07-13-2021 | 10:18 AM
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What would you think the "ultimate" 1/12 car would be like? How would it be different from what we have today?
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Old 07-13-2021 | 10:33 AM
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That's a bit of an odd question. Wouldn't today's top cars (A12, Roche P12 evo, Xray 21, Eclipse 4, etc.) be the ultimate 1/12th? They've been tuned and refined over time to be the top cars today.
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Old 07-13-2021 | 11:30 AM
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I'd like to think that the Blackart molded composite style chassis and 3D printed composite accessories would be the next step. As this technology becomes more affordable and main stream, I'd think that we'll see more of it in our hobby.
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