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Old 09-11-2019 | 04:26 AM
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Originally Posted by godzukihop
I must be over thinking this.
1380 is min weight for USGT, correct?
If 2 cars both weigh 1380 and 1 has a 8200 mah battery and 1 has a 5200 mah battery I want the 8200, no?
Depends on if you can get the left and right weights balanced.
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Old 09-11-2019 | 04:51 AM
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Originally Posted by godzukihop
I must be over thinking this.
1380 is min weight for USGT, correct?
If 2 cars both weigh 1380 and 1 has a 8200 mah battery and 1 has a 5200 mah battery I want the 8200, no?
no . Make the car lazy cause the 340g battery places the weight all on one side of the car ....
where a 5200 pack is 100g lighter and you can add all that 100g +the ballots weight down the center as much as possible keeping the CG lower and more in the center which makes a more agile car that’s less prone to traction rolling .
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Old 09-11-2019 | 04:55 AM
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Originally Posted by AlBundy
Not really looking forward to buying another spec motor for a class that already has one. I get it that many feel hurt that usgt is using a canam motor in many regions but now the end consumer gets to fit the bill, not the right direction if we are trying to grow the sport.
canam is just a option it’s not a mandated system . Plus this don’t come into play till next spring (outdoor season ) ...
heck canam would have been changing the motors up come next aug anyways . The canam motors will change next season to companies that actually support the USA racing classes .
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Old 09-11-2019 | 09:43 AM
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Originally Posted by jlfx car audio

no . Make the car lazy cause ten340g battery places the weight all on one side of the car ....
where a 5200 pack is 100g lighter and you can add all that 100g +the ballots weight down the center as much as possible keeping the CG lower and more in the center which makes a more agile car that’s less prone to traction rolling .
If you go with a lighter battery, you're going to add weight to the battery side to make it even side to side most times so. Plus, I'd rather have the extra voltage through the course of a race. Most times you're only adding 20-30 grams to the electronics side to even out the ballast so, it really doesn't make the car lazy. Those LCG packs do not hold voltage as long as the higher milliamp batteries.
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Old 09-11-2019 | 10:16 AM
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Originally Posted by bertottius
If you go with a lighter battery, you're going to add weight to the battery side to make it even side to side most times so. Plus, I'd rather have the extra voltage through the course of a race. Most times you're only adding 20-30 grams to the electronics side to even out the ballast so, it really doesn't make the car lazy. Those LCG packs do not hold voltage as long as the higher milliamp batteries.
if you have a Tekin speedo do a comparison . During a 5min run both with same consistency .01 voltage between a 5200 vs a 8400 isn’t beneficial . If it was every 17.5 a main driver would be running big stick packs 99% of them don’t cause they known the proven results of weight placement over comes .01 volts when comparing 2 equal quality packs with different mah .
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Old 09-11-2019 | 11:26 AM
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Originally Posted by godzukihop
I must be over thinking this.
1380 is min weight for USGT, correct?
If 2 cars both weigh 1380 and 1 has a 8200 mah battery and 1 has a 5200 mah battery I want the 8200, no?
I cant think of a situation where I could answer “no” based on the way you put the question together. but if you have a weak spot in the system that limit speeds, cornering, consistency, or trade off you may have grounds to put the mass in something other than battery.
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Old 09-11-2019 | 12:36 PM
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There's a good chance the 5200 mah battery will be more durable, and likely a higher C rating... And likely 1/3 the price of the 8200. In which case you could have two batteries.
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Old 09-11-2019 | 04:21 PM
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Originally Posted by bertottius
If you go with a lighter battery, you're going to add weight to the battery side to make it even side to side most times so. Plus, I'd rather have the extra voltage through the course of a race. Most times you're only adding 20-30 grams to the electronics side to even out the ballast so, it really doesn't make the car lazy. Those LCG packs do not hold voltage as long as the higher milliamp batteries.
Even with a 6000 LCG pack I'm adding weight to the electronics side to balance it out.
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Old 09-11-2019 | 04:29 PM
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Maybe it’s just a amx thing but we balance all our cars with 260g battery
electronics on other side no added weight to balance .
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Old 09-11-2019 | 04:52 PM
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Originally Posted by jlfx car audio
Maybe it’s just a amx thing but we balance all our cars with 260g battery
electronics on other side no added weight to balance .
Im stuck with 260 for sure.
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Old 09-11-2019 | 05:28 PM
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Originally Posted by godzukihop
I must be over thinking this.
1380 is min weight for USGT, correct?
If 2 cars both weigh 1380 and 1 has a 8200 mah battery and 1 has a 5200 mah battery I want the 8200, no?
All that extra weight on one side will make the car harder to balance/handle well. It can be done but not ideal. Power is useless if the cars handling isn't optimised. Food for thought.

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Old 09-11-2019 | 05:47 PM
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You guys forgetting that some mains run 8min in USGT and I have never lost a race because I ran a heavier battery. At the past nationals most of us ran 7400-10000 packs in USGT. The 5200 makes the car easier to balance but 1380 is 1380. I say it goes to personal preference. There's no right or wrong answer. I will say this.........most of the A-main driver's ran higher mah packs!!!!!
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Old 09-11-2019 | 06:11 PM
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^^^^^This! i agree. My philosophy.....Spec racing~large capacity(7200-8400). Mod racing~Mid range capacity(5600-6200)
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Old 09-11-2019 | 06:27 PM
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Originally Posted by trigger
^^^^^This! i agree. My philosophy.....Spec racing~large capacity(7200-8400). Mod racing~Mid range capacity(5600-6200)
Personal opinion preached as fact far too often on these message boards. This is what has worked for many of us in Northern Cali. Not saying it's the way it should be but this is what has worked for us.

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Old 09-11-2019 | 07:37 PM
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Originally Posted by STLNLST
Personal opinion preached as fact far too often on these message boards. This is what has worked for many of us in Northern Cali. Not saying it's the way it should be but this is what has worked for us.
I didnt see a single fact. it seemed like everyone was pretty careful in the way they spoke about their opinion and possibilities including you. which by the way was great info.
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