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While they are an incredible technical innovation, in terms of outright pace gains, I firmly believe spools are one of the worst things to occur to 1/12 racing in recent years. I love the reduction in maintenance but hate virtually everything else about them (reduced setup window, predictability, etc.) Unfortunately, you have to run one in order to even be remotely close to competitive.
I have had really great results running the spool. I went real soft with my setup but it’s super smooth and fast as hell. I couldn’t run the same setup I ran with a diff. It was too darty and inconsistent.
The Seattle Area just said: enough is enough with spools and open mod. We circled back to a 6.5, blinky, stripes, functional diff for a mod class and raced the hell outta it on a 75x40 black track. And guess what? We grew the class! It's better in traffic. It's not hard on a battery. It's only .1-.2th slower then open mod. It's twice as efficient on tires. No one is re-kitting cars. And Regular Joe can race it! It's really fun, but we don't want to let that secret out.....
The Seattle Area just said: enough is enough with spools and open mod. We circled back to a 6.5, blinky, stripes, functional diff for a mod class and raced the hell outta it on a 75x40 black track. And guess what? We grew the class! It's better in traffic. It's not hard on a battery. It's only .1-.2th slower then open mod. It's twice as efficient on tires. No one is re-kitting cars. And Regular Joe can race it! It's really fun, but we don't want to let that secret out.....
just saying
Tech Master
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Alternately, they just put a spool in their car when they get to Vegas.
Don't get me wrong, I love a 3.5/spool/open tire mod car on a good consistent track. It's even better when the track owner/organizers leave a layout down prior to the event kicking off. I know what to do for the most part to drop a car on a foreign track.
The gripe about spools in mod is two things: tires are hyper accurate 1-runs and being able to pass accurately in traffic. Those two things alone add up to tire cost and some frustration. I'll admit, when we sat down to the round table to discuss reformatting 12mod, I was a bit resistant. After we all sorted a few variables, we all looked at each other and said: now this fun. Here is a true story from day 1 testing our new format: leading the main, I yelled out to Trav Schreven who was marshaling, you gotta get up here and try this. He hadn't driven 12mod in a year, but on the 3rd lap, he was running the same pace. Trav was blown away how good it was. That day, we went from 3 guys trying something to next week, we had 5. By the Roar Regional, we had 10 cars signed up and racing. Korey won by 5 seconds, I was 2nd, Stuart was third....all within 1.5 laps. I think I used a total of 3 sets of specs. Navigated traffic beautifully with an 8 car field on a 7 second track. Used 1 body all weekend. Just saying.

Brian
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Im confused...why would someone think to spec a 'mod' class? Something i never understood. I look at mod class as 'run what you can handle' if u cant handle it you'll literally pay for it and itll force u to drive what u know how to drive
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here’s a few reason for running spec mod:
1) very few people have either the skills or the budget that’s necessary to run open balls-to-the-wall mod 1/12th. So it hardly ever gets run on the club level.
1a) I know absolutely nobody who enjoys buying a bunch of different foam tire compounds in the endless hunt for the best traction. Spec tires are SO much easier (and cheaper). Besides, they last a lot longer than soft open tires.
1c) Rarely if ever are club race track conditions grippy enough for open mod.
2) plenty of folks (including me) think 17.5 is just too slow. The racing looses something when it’s possible to keep the throttle pinned throughout most of the infield. Also, for maximum fun, there should be a little “pucker” when going down the straightaway and into the sweeper. The cars don’t need to be so fast that they far exceed the drivers’ abilities. But they do need to be fast enough to provide some thrill and also to require some finesse on application of throttle.
3) This one is the biggie - If guys like spec mod, choose to run it, have fun doing it, and participation goes up.......that pretty much proves the worth and value of running spec mod and that’s all the rationale that’s necessary.
1) very few people have either the skills or the budget that’s necessary to run open balls-to-the-wall mod 1/12th. So it hardly ever gets run on the club level.
1a) I know absolutely nobody who enjoys buying a bunch of different foam tire compounds in the endless hunt for the best traction. Spec tires are SO much easier (and cheaper). Besides, they last a lot longer than soft open tires.
1c) Rarely if ever are club race track conditions grippy enough for open mod.
2) plenty of folks (including me) think 17.5 is just too slow. The racing looses something when it’s possible to keep the throttle pinned throughout most of the infield. Also, for maximum fun, there should be a little “pucker” when going down the straightaway and into the sweeper. The cars don’t need to be so fast that they far exceed the drivers’ abilities. But they do need to be fast enough to provide some thrill and also to require some finesse on application of throttle.
3) This one is the biggie - If guys like spec mod, choose to run it, have fun doing it, and participation goes up.......that pretty much proves the worth and value of running spec mod and that’s all the rationale that’s necessary.



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