11LikesSauce of the pros?
01-11-2018 | 01:01 PM
#16
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Pro drivers have a lot of experience flying to races. They know not to have certain things in their stuff when they go to the airport. Aerosol cans, bottles of unmarked petrochemicals (LW in an old sauce bottle), ect...
They probably go to the store when they get in town and stock up on stuff just like normal people. Or, they have arrangements made to have local team mates make sure they have stuff like that for them.
When I flew to the CRCRC race, one of the guys from my group had his sponsor ship a pre-production stadium truck kit to our hotel. That truck put his baggage over weight, and we had all sorts of fun because of the musical checked luggage. Long short of it was that my friend and I ended up at the TSA desk over a film canister of baking soda in my stuff, which my friend had checked in his name. After an explanation of what it was and how it was used, they kept the baking soda (only because they asked, and I said "okay"), and let us go.
Travelling to races can be a logistical nightmare, but you'd be surprised how good those guys are at it.
They probably go to the store when they get in town and stock up on stuff just like normal people. Or, they have arrangements made to have local team mates make sure they have stuff like that for them.
When I flew to the CRCRC race, one of the guys from my group had his sponsor ship a pre-production stadium truck kit to our hotel. That truck put his baggage over weight, and we had all sorts of fun because of the musical checked luggage. Long short of it was that my friend and I ended up at the TSA desk over a film canister of baking soda in my stuff, which my friend had checked in his name. After an explanation of what it was and how it was used, they kept the baking soda (only because they asked, and I said "okay"), and let us go.
Travelling to races can be a logistical nightmare, but you'd be surprised how good those guys are at it.
01-11-2018 | 01:02 PM
#17
how soft does the LW make a tire in relation to the next softer compound?
so for example, apply the LW to a Proline M3 tire, how soft does it get compared to the M4?
reason I ask is that some of the tread types that work out here are no longer made in M4, just M3.
so for example, apply the LW to a Proline M3 tire, how soft does it get compared to the M4?
reason I ask is that some of the tread types that work out here are no longer made in M4, just M3.
01-11-2018 | 05:39 PM
#19
Teal can is the super hot sauce. HUGE difference over what's available in the U.S.
Totally agree with the above comment. Too much LW can ruin a tire well before the tread is worn off. If your at a track that burns down a tire in 2 or 3 races it's no big deal but after that it will make the tire stretch off the foam.
Totally agree with the above comment. Too much LW can ruin a tire well before the tread is worn off. If your at a track that burns down a tire in 2 or 3 races it's no big deal but after that it will make the tire stretch off the foam.
01-11-2018 | 07:47 PM
#21
If I was to guess , I'd say polishing. Like hinge pins and such. Its so micro fine it would be good for that. Thats why they put it in toothpaste, it can polish the stains off you teeth with out hurting the enamal.
But this is a guess anyways,so what the F do I know,lol
But this is a guess anyways,so what the F do I know,lol
01-11-2018 | 07:51 PM
#22
Dang, i just gave me a good idea....I wonder how that would work. Even arms and bulkheads and such when putting a kit together. It would be smooth as bearings in there.... Follow it up with a teflon spray.....
01-11-2018 | 08:51 PM
#24
Yup WD-40 is a decent sauce. Takes a little longer to bite into the rubber and to dry but it works. We usually coat new tires in WD then put them in a bag for a couple days. Then on race day it's teal can LW or sticky kicks. Something that will bite and dry quicker.
01-11-2018 | 09:17 PM
#25
WD40 is very similar to the most commonly used LW (blue label, I think?), which is essentially that brand's version of wd40. I think LW became popular mainly because it's usually way cheaper than WD40 and works as well.
The penetrating oils (LW & PB Blaster) are supposed to be much more aggressive (never tried these myself). Given my experience with the more common stuff, I could see how these could dramatically shorten tire life.
The penetrating oils (LW & PB Blaster) are supposed to be much more aggressive (never tried these myself). Given my experience with the more common stuff, I could see how these could dramatically shorten tire life.
01-11-2018 | 10:09 PM
#26
Dang, that makes a lot of sense. Wouldn't have thought of that
01-12-2018 | 06:37 AM
#28
It's meant to be used after gluing, usually right before you run and it will react with different compounds of rubber differently. I wouldn't put it on tires and then throw them in a bag for a prolonged period.
01-12-2018 | 06:41 AM
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yea i figured out after.. but now i just use the WD after they're glued and i ran them on the asphalt for a bit. Let it air dry then apply sticky kicks and wrap the tires in a paper towel and put them in the bag until the next race day. Hard lesson learned but oh well, hopefully no else does that mistake like me. For me and sauce, i use a mix of the red sticky kicks and LW in a bottle.
01-12-2018 | 12:04 PM
#30
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From: Austin,TX
Back when our club was running on clay, most of us used Liquid Wrench Lubricating oil sprayed into an empty shock oil bottle, then would spray equal proportion of brake cleaner to help it dry more quickly. Simply placed a few drops on a toothbrush and worked it into the treads about 5-10 min before each run.
This was a mild sauce method, there were more aggressive sauces out there which were used when temps dropped and we needed more traction, my favorite was Sticky Kicks Yellow, I think they have a more aggressive sauce than that now. With Sticky Kicks they have a wide range of sauces to use depending on your track condition. So if you start to traction roll, then go with something less aggressive (like Liquid Wrench).
This was a mild sauce method, there were more aggressive sauces out there which were used when temps dropped and we needed more traction, my favorite was Sticky Kicks Yellow, I think they have a more aggressive sauce than that now. With Sticky Kicks they have a wide range of sauces to use depending on your track condition. So if you start to traction roll, then go with something less aggressive (like Liquid Wrench).