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A800R Released March 23, 2023 with two kit versions, A800RA (alloy) and A800RC (carbon)


Mid Motor Content ---

New Part Releases
  • January 2020 - A800-AM24-20 Servo Holder - combine servo holder and steering holder to one single part.
  • February 2020 - A800-ADC Advanced Damper Cup Set - Reduces the amount of rebuild routines. It offers the possibility to A) remove air and B) add oil into the damper without the need of full disassembling
  • January 2021 - A800-BDL - Body Downtravel Limiter, replaces SPR08
  • March 2021 - A800-P138LFA - 38T Pully Low Friction - For Gear Diff
  • March 2021 - A800-P138S-LFA 38T Spool Pulley Low Friction - For Spool
  • April 2021 - A800-C27MMX - Full Length Top Deck for A800MMX
  • May 2021 - A800-C01MMA Alloy Chassis - Battery position is shifted to the front to achieve a better overall weight distribution. Removes short arm holes. New narrower shape
  • September 2021 - A800-C04M1+7.0 Arm - narrows the track width for lower grip levels
  • October 2021 - AM180EVO Single Bellcrank Steering Update - AM180EVO is a direct replacement for AM180M5

A800MMX and A800MMXA Kit Updates
  • AM152/AM24-8 is replaced by AM24-20 in this kit (UPDATE 08.03.2021)
  • P138/P138S is replaced by P138-1/P138S-1 in this kit (UPDATE 25.03.2021)
  • C01B-X-MMA is replaced by C01MMA in MMXA kit (UPDATE 26.05.2021)
  • AM180M5 is replaced by AM180EVO in this kit (UPDATE 21.09.2021)


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A800 Information
New Parts
  • June 2016: A800-SPR01-98 - The version of SPR01 springs with reduced angle of the tips bending. Recommended for using with new SPR02H3 Shock Rod Guides.
  • June 2016: A800-SPR01S-98 - The version of SPR01S springs with reduced angle of the tips bending. Recommended for using with new SPR02H3 Shock Rod Guides.
  • May / June 2016: A800-AM14A - includes new optional "longer" hole on steering arm
  • May / June 2016: A700-AM14-3 - removes the prior "longer" hole on steering arm
  • May / June 2016: A800-C04AL+0.5 - 0.5mm wider alloy suspension arm
  • May / June 2016: A800-C01B-2.25 - 2.25mm carbon main plate (best suited for asphalt racing)
  • May / June 2016: A800-D2.2 - Dampers that support a thicker SPR02H3
  • May / June 2016: A800-SPR02H3 - Thicker Shock Rod Guides for the D2.2 damper
  • May / June 2016: A800-AT41-2 - Damper vane for the D2.2 damper designed to work w/ SPR02H3
  • May / June 2016: A800-SPR02H - Stronger Shock Rod Guides for the D2.0 and D2.1 damper versions
  • May 2016: A800-AM19-4 - Currently used in the rear of a kit. With AM19-4 the top link effective length is 0,7mm shorter compare to AM19-2. Also with AM19-4 the flex of suspension is smaller ( similar to more stiffer arm and c-hub of normal cars). The screws on dampers are more accessible for adjustment.
  • January 2017 - SPRO2X - new for dampers and do not require a 98 degree bent spring.
  • January 2017 - New A800X and A800XA kits now available featuring 0.3mm longer front and rear wheelbase.
Kit Updates
  • May - Current: Kits now including DT10-2-1 bearing holders for increased side play and durability of the differential and spool.
  • May - July 2016: bearings within kits require oil before use
  • May / June 2016: C01B-AL (Khaki) Chassis with 0.5mm/side wider front arm mounts
  • May / June 2016: 2x ST17-1-S replace ST17 - See page 21 of manual
  • May / June 2016: Updated damper, D2.2, introduced
  • May / June 2016: Thicker Shock Rod Guides for the D2.2 damper included with kits, A800-SPR02H3
  • Jan 2016: GD2 Output Axle (ST31-1) update to use blue foam (P46) instead of set screw (used on each side of Axle after assembly)


Setups
Major Race Wins
  • 2016 Reedy Race of Champions - Modified - Julian Wong
  • 2016 Mile High Championship - 17.5 - Kyle Klingforth
  • 2016 Mile High Championship - 13.5 - Kyle Klingforth
  • 2016 ROAR On-Road Carpet Nationals - 17.5 - Mike Gee
  • 2016 ROAR On-Road Carpet Nationals - 13.5 - Mike Gee
  • 2015/6 ETS Season 9 Round 3 - Xray Pro Stock Division - Tony Streit
  • 2015 US Indoor Champs - 13.5 - Mike Gee
  • 2016 Roar On-Road Asphalt Nationals - 13.5 - Mike Gee
  • 2016 Roar On-Road Asphalt Nationals - 17.5 - Sam Isaacs
  • 2016 International Indoor Championships (IIC) - 17.5 - Mike Gee
  • 2016 Halloween Classic at the Gate - 17.5 - Brad Johnson
  • 2016 US Indoor Champs - 17.5 - Sam Isaacs
  • 2016 US Indoor Champs - 13.5 -Matt Lyons
  • 2016 Stock Wars - 17.5 - Mike Gee
  • 2016 Hudy Indoor Championship - 17.5 - Brad Johnson

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Old 10-11-2017, 09:17 AM
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Can't use drugs fill I retire. So it's just old age degradation..
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So.. to get back on topic... I just want to ensure everyone is aware of the past weeks performance in Las Vegas. Across all TC classes there was a significant presence of Awesomatix A800 and A800X cars not just in the pits, or in the top 10 but really the top 20-30 cars per class. It was truly an amazing to see ... And I think talks to the quality of the product being made by Oleg. Thank you Oleg.

And to give some airtime to the top finishers per class-

Mod TC top finisher - 4th - Mike Gee
17.5 TC - TQ + Win - Kyle Klingforth
21.5 TC - TQ + Win - Michael Toth
Spec GT - Win - Chris Kemper ; TQ - Bill Sydor
Amateur TC TQ + Win - Michael Kamali
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I still can't believe the lack of response from other manufactures to the Awesomtix A800 design - specifically the rotary shocks which have so many advantages. Serpent is the only one to make an attempt to counter the clear superiority of Oleg's design. Top dogs like Xray, and Yokomo didn't need to yet but there is about 10 other manufactures with nothing to lose that have missed the opportunity to step up. The next manufacture to adopt the rotary shock system will sell some cars.
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Wanting to jump ship from Associated and try an A800.

Will only be running indoor on smallish medium/high grip track with 17.5T but eventually I see is moving to 21.5T for stock.

A team driver told me that most prefer the A800 over the X for Spec racing. Is this something I should worry about?

Also was told that a new version will be out January. The A800XA just came back in stock so not sure if I should wait it get one of the XAs now...
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Originally Posted by iTz Nicholas72
Wanting to jump ship from Associated and try an A800.

Will only be running indoor on smallish medium/high grip track with 17.5T but eventually I see is moving to 21.5T for stock.

A team driver told me that most prefer the A800 over the X for Spec racing. Is this something I should worry about?

Also was told that a new version will be out January. The A800XA just came back in stock so not sure if I should wait it get one of the XAs now...
the thing w/ Awesomatix -- there is almost constantly a 'new version'. new parts come out very frequently -- case in point, the IFJ drive shaft.

i suspect a 2018 car -- but depending upon how your racing program is going now... do you really want to wait another 3m?

a800 vs a800x -- cars are close by different. last winter the Awesomatix USA team "finished" their winter season running the a800 series for the most part, although i jumped to the a800x asap. as of march/april the team started cutting over to the a800x cars and we got the same, or even better results in 2017 at IIC with the new cars...
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if anyone is interested in a BRAND NEW IN BOX A800X.. heres one for sale

http://www.rctech.net/forum/r-c-item...tix-a800x.html
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where or find the A800X set up for USGT?
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Originally Posted by DavidNERODease
I still can't believe the lack of response from other manufactures to the Awesomtix A800 design - specifically the rotary shocks which have so many advantages. Serpent is the only one to make an attempt to counter the clear superiority of Oleg's design. Top dogs like Xray, and Yokomo didn't need to yet but there is about 10 other manufactures with nothing to lose that have missed the opportunity to step up. The next manufacture to adopt the rotary shock system will sell some cars.
Not exactly rotary but you see xray with their 2018 car going to much smaller shocks to lower CG. Just reading through the their thread many people refer to the dominance of the A800 series especially in club and spec racing and looking to lower cg more.

It hasn't caught on here in Vegas, I've seen 3-4 drivers try it and sell it within weeks. It's a tough car to wrap your head around but imo once you "get it" there's nothing better. Actually easy to tune once you understand how the suspension works and adjusts. I feel it's much simpler than traditional suspensions and NOT having to worry about piston sizes, spring rates, matching springs, shock pre load, vented or not...i'm tickled pink not having to touch a "shock" ever again.
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[QUOTE=OVA;15051481]where or find the A800X set up

I run Brandon Clement setups . He has a asphalt and carpet setup . I have won with both setups in USGT .
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Took a little bit of a break from RC racing and want to know what exactly is the difference between the 800 and the 800X? is the VTD more less the same as the DL? Have an 800 now but contemplating the 800X. Mainly going to run 17.5 on gray crc carpet. Thanks in advance!
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Originally Posted by arn671
Took a little bit of a break from RC racing and want to know what exactly is the difference between the 800 and the 800X? is the VTD more less the same as the DL? Have an 800 now but contemplating the 800X. Mainly going to run 17.5 on gray crc carpet. Thanks in advance!
Hey buddy
get the A800XA it is the best and bad a$$ carpet TC lol
It is much cheaper than upgrade the A800
No need the VTD ,the DL maybe later
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Think I'm going to bite the bullet and order an A800XA.

What's a good set of spares to start with without going too overboard...
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