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Old 10-11-2017 | 09:51 AM
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I entered my TC3 in the USVTA Southern Nationals. I was not fast, but the car did fine. I had a J71 body on it. The "Pizza Hut" delivery sign I remove before the races (Velcro). I run it at my local track.








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Old 10-11-2017 | 10:07 AM
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Originally Posted by IndyHobbies.com
I entered my TC3 in the USVTA Southern Nationals. I was not fast, but the car did fine. I had a J71 body on it. The "Pizza Hut" delivery sign I remove before the races (Velcro). I run it at my local track.
I like the turnbuckle bumper brace.

This, I think, is VTA done right. It's supposed to be a fun class, which was why they sometimes raced the mains backwards on the track layout.
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Old 10-11-2017 | 04:04 PM
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Originally Posted by DesertRat
I like the turnbuckle bumper brace.

This, I think, is VTA done right. It's supposed to be a fun class, which was why they sometimes raced the mains backwards on the track layout.
Unfortunately, VTA is a money class like everything else now. where I race there are mostly top of the line cars running VTA now.
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Old 10-11-2017 | 04:09 PM
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Originally Posted by Lone Drifter
Unfortunately, VTA is a money class like everything else now. where I race there are mostly top of the line cars running VTA now.
Well, people like winning, and you cant tell somebody who has the latest and greatest that they cant use it because its the latest and greatest! . I'm glad that it still has the aspirations of a fun time, rather than a battle.
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Old 10-11-2017 | 05:11 PM
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Originally Posted by DesertRat
Well, people like winning, and you cant tell somebody who has the latest and greatest that they cant use it because its the latest and greatest! . I'm glad that it still has the aspirations of a fun time, rather than a battle.
Well, you can, if you specify what chassis are legal in the rules :P
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Old 10-12-2017 | 05:52 AM
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Originally Posted by gigaplex
Well, you can, if you specify what chassis are legal in the rules :P
Not to ruffle a lot of feather, but...

Just like having one set motor, a battery limit, tire type, and higher weight worked out so well.

I too race my TC3 in VTA. Sometimes I do alright, most of the time I get my doors blown off against newer chassis'. I still have fun though.
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Old 10-12-2017 | 07:36 AM
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Originally Posted by CSeils
Not to ruffle a lot of feather, but...

Just like having one set motor, a battery limit, tire type, and higher weight worked out so well.

I too race my TC3 in VTA. Sometimes I do alright, most of the time I get my doors blown off against newer chassis'. I still have fun though.
I was thinking more along the lines of the Tamiya mini or Euro truck classes.
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Old 10-12-2017 | 02:02 PM
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Originally Posted by gigaplex
Well, you can, if you specify what chassis are legal in the rules :P
Not that they will be changing the rules at this point, but if they had known it was going to be so successful, they could have said that only 10 year old chassis are legal or something like that. As I understand it, that was the original goal was to get a class where you could use your old stuff rather than have it sit around. That being said, I think Myron Kinnard did pretty well on a national level with a TC4 not too long ago.
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Old 10-12-2017 | 02:12 PM
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Originally Posted by IndyHobbies.com
Not that they will be changing the rules at this point, but if they had known it was going to be so successful, they could have said that only 10 year old chassis are legal or something like that. As I understand it, that was the original goal was to get a class where you could use your old stuff rather than have it sit around. That being said, I think Myron Kinnard did pretty well on a national level with a TC4 not too long ago.
Older Chassis, and go with hobbywing fixed endbell motors and escs.
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Old 10-12-2017 | 02:16 PM
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I really liked it when it was Novak only. Now that the motor choice is open to many manufacturers, they do seem to be going faster. Maybe its just my perception. I'm still running Novak and will continue to for a while. I've even got another 25.5 NIB.
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Originally Posted by IndyHobbies.com
I really liked it when it was Novak only. Now that the motor choice is open to many manufacturers, they do seem to be going faster. Maybe its just my perception. I'm still running Novak and will continue to for a while. I've even got another 25.5 NIB.
The open motor is making the class more expensive..chasing the must have go fast motor of the week. In the beginning they went with Novak...I think Hobbywing might be one answer to get cost back down...jm2c
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the older chassis can and will do well in VTA and even GT classes. The issue Ive run into is Im pretty much out of spares with my TC3. And I really like it, so Im not sure I want to add more money into it. I put a lot of laps,money, and time into the car for years. And when AE released the TC5, well new ride. Still love VTA and my TC3, but new is new....and it went from there.

older chassis are great, if you have parts, and already have the older chassis.. but for most new guys a TC4 Club car or a TC7 will fit more into their future as it will allow more room to grow.

to insert a rule on years on a chassis would hurt the class. How many people run VTA with a TC3 or older chassis....Ive been to plenty(most) large VTA events and they are a few, but no way the majority.
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Old 10-12-2017 | 02:27 PM
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motors are not an issue...if tech is done right. most of the 25.5's are all in the same ballpark. Some have high gauss rotors, but I think that can hurt as well
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Old 10-12-2017 | 02:29 PM
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Originally Posted by DARKSIDE
the older chassis can and will do well in VTA and even GT classes. The issue Ive run into is Im pretty much out of spares with my TC3. And I really like it, so Im not sure I want to add more money into it. I put a lot of laps,money, and time into the car for years. And when AE released the TC5, well new ride. Still love VTA and my TC3, but new is new....and it went from there.

older chassis are great, if you have parts, and already have the older chassis.. but for most new guys a TC4 Club car or a TC7 will fit more into their future as it will allow more room to grow.

to insert a rule on years on a chassis would hurt the class. How many people run VTA with a TC3 or older chassis....Ive been to plenty(most) large VTA events and they are a few, but no way the majority.
Yep I myself used to race a TC3 then went to TC6 and currently race a TC7. Its just the motor thing is out of hand. Its hard to be competitive even with the newer car when guys are running 55-60degrees of timing. Fixed endbell motors would help. If people want to "go faster" then move to usgt or our trck is starting 21.5 TC.
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Old 10-12-2017 | 02:50 PM
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Originally Posted by hotrodchevy14
The open motor is making the class more expensive..chasing the must have go fast motor of the week. In the beginning they went with Novak...I think Hobbywing might be one answer to get cost back down...jm2c
The Hobbywing as Spec everything is not the answer to every cost saving motor problem, and to assign every profit margin to only one company surely violates anti trust laws or at least the principles of free market enterprise, not to mention the systematic killing of innovation, etc.... Motor Communism should not rule in all classes or else you'll alienate a real big percentage of the industry.....Sure , a spec class should be available but that should not be all that's available ! Roar Rules are there for every company out there, not just Hobbywing ! Look at what happened to Novak. Imagine if Novak had their motors as Spec for every class: what a disaster that would have been.....You want cost cutting? Stop buying the new motor of the week, learn setup, and practice until you can TQ and win.....
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