Xray T4'17
#811
Joined: Aug 2001
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From: In a land of mini-mighty mental giants
Im running it with 2mm spacers on the inside and outside. Also use the same compound arms front and rear. The USA kits come with Graphite arms but the ars arms in the kit are hard not graphite so if your going to use graphite front arms make sure you use graphite ARS rear arms or hard and hard. This is all on a tighter layout on black carpet in USGT.
Last edited by Kevin K; 02-09-2017 at 06:02 PM.
#812
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Im running it with 2mm spacers on the inside and outside. Also use the same compound arms front and rear. The USA kits come with Graphite arms but the ars arms in the kit are hard not graphite so if you going to use graphite front arms make sure you use graphite ARS rear arms or hard and hard. This is all on a tighter layout on black carpet in USGT.
#813
Anyone ever see a setup for any of the other upper bulkhead clamp ball stud mounting holes? I've only ever seen the one hole used...anyone experiment here w longer/shorter camber links? What would be the effects?
#815
#816
I sometimes use a longer front link in the wet for more steering.
#818
I would think a longer link would reduce the rate of the camber and thus not give you more steering.
#820
Rear link length is less predictable, tried going longer a couple of times, sometimes it gains grip, sometimes loses grip.
#821
A longer link also causes the rollcentre to stay lower during roll. This seems to be the dominant factor with the front link, as longer always gives me more steering. Probably because the outer front wheel already has plenty of camber due to the castor effect.
Rear link length is less predictable, tried going longer a couple of times, sometimes it gains grip, sometimes loses grip.
Rear link length is less predictable, tried going longer a couple of times, sometimes it gains grip, sometimes loses grip.
The roll center will only change if the suspension compresses? right?
#822
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Joined: Feb 2014
Posts: 72
But if the car rolls the roll center moves horizontally also. The already mentioned short upper longer lower link car will shift the roll center towards the right during a left corner. By how far depends on ratio of upper and lower link length and angle. So the camber gain has big influence on horizontal movement of the rollcenter during cornering/roll.
#823
Hi guys,
What would be the main changes you'd do from the stock carpet setup, which has served me well so far, if you were to go run on a technical super hi-grip carpet track, which will be my case next week as I'm discovering a new track I've never run at?
Me thinks (in order): 2.7 springs (I don't have the 2.9's...), 100CPS stiffer oil, all roll-centers inserts 0.5mm higher (for higher RC), possibly more bump-steer on the spindle... and more wattage, yeah!
Thoughts on the center carbon brace?
Thanks
Paul
What would be the main changes you'd do from the stock carpet setup, which has served me well so far, if you were to go run on a technical super hi-grip carpet track, which will be my case next week as I'm discovering a new track I've never run at?
Me thinks (in order): 2.7 springs (I don't have the 2.9's...), 100CPS stiffer oil, all roll-centers inserts 0.5mm higher (for higher RC), possibly more bump-steer on the spindle... and more wattage, yeah!

Thoughts on the center carbon brace?
Thanks

Paul
#824
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From: Saskatoon, SK, Canada
Hi guys,
What would be the main changes you'd do from the stock carpet setup, which has served me well so far, if you were to go run on a technical super hi-grip carpet track, which will be my case next week as I'm discovering a new track I've never run at?
Me thinks (in order): 2.7 springs (I don't have the 2.9's...), 100CPS stiffer oil, all roll-centers inserts 0.5mm higher (for higher RC), possibly more bump-steer on the spindle... and more wattage, yeah!
Thoughts on the center carbon brace?
Thanks
Paul
What would be the main changes you'd do from the stock carpet setup, which has served me well so far, if you were to go run on a technical super hi-grip carpet track, which will be my case next week as I'm discovering a new track I've never run at?
Me thinks (in order): 2.7 springs (I don't have the 2.9's...), 100CPS stiffer oil, all roll-centers inserts 0.5mm higher (for higher RC), possibly more bump-steer on the spindle... and more wattage, yeah!

Thoughts on the center carbon brace?
Thanks

Paul





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