Xray T4'17
#631
Looking for some guidance for setting up shocks and springs. WE run on a track with a couple of bumpy sections and medium traction, what rebound would be recommended for this type of track? My 2015, which I plan to use for GT, is set up with zero rebound but that was set up without any input about what is best for our conditions.....would like to get off to a good start with the new car.
Also, when selecting springs and placement does anyone run stiffer springs in the rear of the car?....and what does that do for handling characteristics. Been running stiffer in front but I'm considering a change for the new car.
Thanks in advance,
Also, when selecting springs and placement does anyone run stiffer springs in the rear of the car?....and what does that do for handling characteristics. Been running stiffer in front but I'm considering a change for the new car.
Thanks in advance,
#632
Looking for some guidance for setting up shocks and springs. WE run on a track with a couple of bumpy sections and medium traction, what rebound would be recommended for this type of track? My 2015, which I plan to use for GT, is set up with zero rebound but that was set up without any input about what is best for our conditions.....would like to get off to a good start with the new car.
Also, when selecting springs and placement does anyone run stiffer springs in the rear of the car?....and what does that do for handling characteristics. Been running stiffer in front but I'm considering a change for the new car.
Thanks in advance,
Also, when selecting springs and placement does anyone run stiffer springs in the rear of the car?....and what does that do for handling characteristics. Been running stiffer in front but I'm considering a change for the new car.
Thanks in advance,
I'm flicking between hard progressives, and 2.7's at the moment... normally ends up being track temperature dependent, where hotter tracks seem to prefer the progressives, and cooler linears. My thoery is that the progressives don't overload the tyre initially, so look after them better over a run. Whereas the linears are good to generate temp with colder track temps.
#633
Tech Master
Joined: Jan 2005
Posts: 1,457
Hey guys, need some advice for my 2017 t4. I'm running on black CRC carpet and have the factory setup on the car with brand new Sorex 28 tires. The problem is the rear of the car whips around at corner entry. When I reduced the rear droop from 2mm to 1mm over ride height, put stiffer (27) front springs and glued the edges of the front tires it made the car more drivable but it needs more improvement, something to make it less titchy.
Thanks for any help.
Thanks for any help.
#634
Hey guys, need some advice for my 2017 t4. I'm running on black CRC carpet and have the factory setup on the car with brand new Sorex 28 tires. The problem is the rear of the car whips around at corner entry. When I reduced the rear droop from 2mm to 1mm over ride height, put stiffer (27) front springs and glued the edges of the front tires it made the car more drivable but it needs more improvement, something to make it less titchy.
Thanks for any help.
Thanks for any help.
#635
Tech Master
Joined: Jan 2005
Posts: 1,457
I had to use the Sorex tires b/c that's all I had, I was going to buy some Jaco Blues but it looks like they are discontinued . Good idea about adding more rear camber, I didn't think about that!
First thing that comes to mind is why Sorex 28 on black carpet. Seems like double jeopardy there. The 2.7 front springs will make it twitchy as well, id you feel you need the stiffer spring try the progressive. Try more rear camber or camber gain as long as the car is not traction rolling.
#636
#638
Jaco blues are still available, as are the Sweep 32's and the Gravity RC tire all good choices for the black carpet
#639
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Hey so I'm using the Techra steering bellcranks. No side to side slop but there's up slop up/down. Not a massive issue cos I think I can just shim that out. What seems to be more of an issue is that left to right, the bellcranks seem to get in the way so I don't see the steering hubs and the C-hubs touch the limiters. Any way around this??
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#641
Joined: Dec 2001
Posts: 9,866
From: Murfreesboro, TN
#643
Joined: Dec 2001
Posts: 9,866
From: Murfreesboro, TN
I would start with 450 all around. Stock pistons.
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#644
Hey guys, need some advice for my 2017 t4. I'm running on black CRC carpet and have the factory setup on the car with brand new Sorex 28 tires. The problem is the rear of the car whips around at corner entry. When I reduced the rear droop from 2mm to 1mm over ride height, put stiffer (27) front springs and glued the edges of the front tires it made the car more drivable but it needs more improvement, something to make it less titchy.
Thanks for any help.
Thanks for any help.
Than glue the shit out your tire, like up to the flat almost. Than try different amounts of dope, 1/8, 1/4, 1/2, etc. My guess is you won't be able to go past half. Sorex 28's are waaaayyyyyy to soft for CRC black carpet especially if there's an established groove.
But yes less rear droop, less front droop, more weight forward, harder front springs, thicker oil up front, less camber, zero camber gain up front, higher roll center in the front, higher front ride height than rear. These are all things that would help with your aggressive over-steer problem from these tires.
#645
Tech Master
Joined: Jan 2005
Posts: 1,457
You've given me a lot of great ideas, thanks very much. I can't wait to try them!
run a normal setup or one that is proven for CRC carpet high grip. Check out EA's and Robbie Dodge's setups from Stock Wars recently run at 360v2 in Rochelle NY.
Than glue the shit out your tire, like up to the flat almost. Than try different amounts of dope, 1/8, 1/4, 1/2, etc. My guess is you won't be able to go past half. Sorex 28's are waaaayyyyyy to soft for CRC black carpet especially if there's an established groove.
But yes less rear droop, less front droop, more weight forward, harder front springs, thicker oil up front, less camber, zero camber gain up front, higher roll center in the front, higher front ride height than rear. These are all things that would help with your aggressive over-steer problem from these tires.
Than glue the shit out your tire, like up to the flat almost. Than try different amounts of dope, 1/8, 1/4, 1/2, etc. My guess is you won't be able to go past half. Sorex 28's are waaaayyyyyy to soft for CRC black carpet especially if there's an established groove.
But yes less rear droop, less front droop, more weight forward, harder front springs, thicker oil up front, less camber, zero camber gain up front, higher roll center in the front, higher front ride height than rear. These are all things that would help with your aggressive over-steer problem from these tires.





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