Originally Posted by exheliguy

I see that kyosho makes aluminum rear hubs. Do they also make front knuckles and carriers? And will the zx6 parts fit the new 6.6?

Originally Posted by Kraig

If you buy parts for the ZX6, they will work on the ZX6.6. I honestly can't think of any that will not work.

I have not had any problems with the kit balls either.

Originally Posted by likea45

I was running X-ray before coming to kyosho. The Xb4 is a very fast and capable platform. Two places I think the ZX6 excels at over the X-ray:
1. Cornering. My XB4 was very easy to drive right out of the box but I always felt like I wanted more steering. I'd find it but then I would have too much. I'd play with dialing it back and forth until I'd reach a point I could "live with". Spending an additional $100+ on the ECS drive shafts was the only way to get the car to turn the way I wanted. The ZX6 from go had loads of steering, too much in fact, but I found it much easier to dial back. With all that said the ZX6 enters and exits corners faster and is a bit more agile in tricky sections for my taste.

2. Jumping and landing. I was never blown away by the X-ray shock package. I had to buy aftermarket parts to keep them going although I will say they are easy to build. Nothing and I mean nothing touches a Kyosho shock though. Buttery smooth and plush, rebuild after rebuild after rebuild. They just have it down when it comes to shocks. This allows the car to land more plush and stable which in turn means quicker to accelerate on landing.

The XB4 is great chassis, I think it's durability is something Kyosho could learn from and it's easy to drive out of the box and a breeze to work on. The ZX6 is also easy to drive out of the box but I think it's better in the hands of an experienced driver who's had a wheeler before than a first timer. I believe the X-ray is easier for a beginner especially when durability is a factor.

I was instantly faster with the ZX6.

Originally Posted by lyons238

this is odd to me i found the xray to be the best steering buggy by a long shot.

dont get me wrong the kyosho is a great car, but i would definitely argue against your point that the kyosho has better steering - that was probably a personal setup issue. same with the speed issue. im faster with the xray than any other buggy but i have it dialed in.

i think the xray is way more versatile and more tune able especially with the different plastics and that's what makes it great to me. i can dial it in to my liking and it respond very well.

i do agree that kyosho's shocks are slightly better, but i don't think that comes into play honestly. they just dont get as dirty as quickly, but replace xrays o-rings with some kyosho or yokomo x-rings and it's on par, if not close enough to never ever tell a difference on the track.

Originally Posted by likea45

That's cool. That's why we have different cars for different people. I know how to setup my cars, the X-ray wasn't slow by any means, but I found the ZX6 more to my liking.

Originally Posted by lyons238

i do agree that kyosho's shocks are slightly better, but i don't think that comes into play honestly. they just dont get as dirty as quickly, but replace xrays o-rings with some kyosho or yokomo x-rings and it's on par, if not close enough to never ever tell a difference on the track.

Originally Posted by 13Maschine

Gotta disagree here. Kyosho shocks are the best hands down, of any shock I've built so far. I've built AE, HB, Yokomo, Durango, KYO, pretty much all of them. Xray pistons have an insane amount of blow by, in comparison. Unfortunately the machined piston sets available via aftermarket like Avid or Schelle are designed to be very close to the originals, so same problem. Highly difficult to tune this way. Generally requires higher viscosity oil.
Changing the O rings will only decrease stiction, while this is useful, it still doesn't solve the blow by problem.

Shocks are a critical part of the the cars performance and this is noticeable and obvious on the track.

I haven't even mentioned the spring problem either.

Originally Posted by JAE

I have had 3 xray's in the last 6 months. I like their cars. I don't like their shocks. The Kyosho shocks are the best thing that's happened to me since the birth of my second child.

Originally Posted by lyons238

LOL - f the first child tho right?

but did you try avid pistons and kyosho x-rings? like i said after that they're right up there with TLR IMO.

Kyosho is the best i agree - but does it really translate on the track? not really. feels better when you build them and you change oil less is about it.