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Old 09-06-2016 | 12:10 PM
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I am fairly new to racing and I can give some perspective as a newbie about the something that limits me and makes it harder to get into USGT.

1) The minimum weight requirement is actually something I care about and in my opinion makes it feel like I am less competitive. In my opinion you should be increasing the min weight, not decreasing. Something I struggle to understand is why you would want parity with ROAR instead of distinction (specifically around weight).
2) The approved body list is quite large in my opinion. I feel like there is a great selection to choose between, however I find myself limited due to weight requirements. I would be much more likely to choose heavier bodies if I didn't feel like it was such a stretch to keep my weight down.

While I understand the other posters in this thread stating that the best drivers will always rise to the top. My response to that is I am trying to have fun and be competitive at the same time... I don't want to feel like I'm giving up the fun part to be competitive.
1) I like the new lower weights. It means I can run the same chassis in multiple classes just by switching from the USGT body and tires. No more messing around with strip after strip of weights too- ugh!
It means less wear and tear on the tires too, especially on asphalt.

2) Valid point but my cars are underweight regardless of bodies so a few bricks of lead are added when running lighter bodies so it really becomes a matter of where do you want to add weight- the chassis or the body?
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Old 09-06-2016 | 12:33 PM
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Originally Posted by nubs
I am fairly new to racing and I can give some perspective as a newbie about the something that limits me and makes it harder to get into USGT.

1) The minimum weight requirement is actually something I care about and in my opinion makes it feel like I am less competitive. In my opinion you should be increasing the min weight, not decreasing. Something I struggle to understand is why you would want parity with ROAR instead of distinction (specifically around weight).
2) The approved body list is quite large in my opinion. I feel like there is a great selection to choose between, however I find myself limited due to weight requirements. I would be much more likely to choose heavier bodies if I didn't feel like it was such a stretch to keep my weight down.

While I understand the other posters in this thread stating that the best drivers will always rise to the top. My response to that is I am trying to have fun and be competitive at the same time... I don't want to feel like I'm giving up the fun part to be competitive.
This is my take on your opinion in the weight area . a lighter car is faster from our testing on carpet . I will say the body weight has a affect on performance . probably one of the heaviest bodies I've ever ran is a tamiya HSV @ 160g painted but at the time I painted it I was able to mount it to a normal touring car and it just made legal weight . but when I put the usgt tires on the car I was over by 20g (1470) so then Started drilling the body out anywhere I could then cover the holes up with stickers ... It shaved about 10g ... Then for creative with my front bumper and balancing techniques to get car down to 1450... Now That weight is down to 1380 I'm scared to get a hpi or tamiya body just for that weight reasoning ... I know a catallic body is 102g in race paint ,camaro z-28 is 89 ... So this yr it was a no brainer to get the camaro fitted and tuned ... Tho Matt won the roar nationals with a catallic body I feel if he was running the camaro z-28 it would have been quicker and that was at the 1450 weight limits . now with the new lower weight speeds are .2 faster than they were with same car . but tire ware with the added speed in lap times is still the same as they were ... If all the cool looking bodies all weighted the same it would definitely make for a cool fun looking race . but to be in the A main at a large event you really need the lightest bodies . not saying one can't be Inn the A heavy body but you would be faster with a lighter body ... So if it was my class I would put a word into a few companies to try to keep the bodies around the 120g weight so everyone didn't feel like they had to have a Chevy to be up front ... Then the weight game wouldn't be as big of a deal
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Old 09-06-2016 | 01:05 PM
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Originally Posted by MikeR
1) I like the new lower weights. It means I can run the same chassis in multiple classes just by switching from the USGT body and tires. No more messing around with strip after strip of weights too- ugh!
It means less wear and tear on the tires too, especially on asphalt.

2) Valid point but my cars are underweight regardless of bodies so a few bricks of lead are added when running lighter bodies so it really becomes a matter of where do you want to add weight- the chassis or the body?
Yes that makes sense. It's all about trade offs. Rob has to figure out which audience he is going to cater to. In my experience at Ripon Raceway, very few people run the same car in different classes. In fact the people who run two classes have two separate cars. but your point is fair, the more you can race the more fun you have.

As for your response to number 2... As a beginner, it would be nice to not have to worry about that. It would be better for me if weight was a secondary issue around balancing the car as opposed to making sure that all the goodies in my car were light weight versions. As I get more experience I learn all the tricks... but is that the way it should be if you want to attract more people to the sport?
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Old 09-06-2016 | 01:38 PM
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Keep in mind, a higher lid weight is a higher cg. Car rolls more-and especially on the new black carpet thats not wanted. Even still, i went with a tamiya nsx concept just to be different then everyone at my local track. Sick of seeing the same thing. Body didnt handle that bad, and the car was slow enough and predictable enough to be ok for me to drive. First time ever in the class, and i cleaned house with tq/win. Bottom line, concentrate on your driving, and youll do ok regardless of wht body is on the car.
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Old 09-06-2016 | 01:50 PM
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Originally Posted by nubs
Yes that makes sense. It's all about trade offs. Rob has to figure out which audience he is going to cater to. In my experience at Ripon Raceway, very few people run the same car in different classes. In fact the people who run two classes have two separate cars. but your point is fair, the more you can race the more fun you have.

As for your response to number 2... As a beginner, it would be nice to not have to worry about that. It would be better for me if weight was a secondary issue around balancing the car as opposed to making sure that all the goodies in my car were light weight versions. As I get more experience I learn all the tricks... but is that the way it should be if you want to attract more people to the sport?
Ah! I remember thinking as you do. But as in life, you can't have your cake and eat it too. You want the best performance but don't want it to be so serious that it requires chasing grams thus spoiling the fun factor. Nothing wrong wanting that, but it's unrealistic. You have become involved in RACING. Anytime you race anything in a semi serious fashion, you will bring in those who take it very serious and go to any lengths to gain any advantage within or outside of the rules. You can sit back and not worry about eeking out tenths or hundredths a lap for that matter and have fun. Run a heavier car and continue improving in your racing. Have fun!
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Old 09-06-2016 | 02:25 PM
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In the end its good that so many of you enjoy racing USGT that you need to come on the internetz and have these "spirited" debates or dishing out a horse beating. If this class sucked no one would care...

With regards to the list if there is something that you would like to see please send myself or rob a message we are always willing to look at a body and see if it fits with our class structure.

With regards to Flying M he has one of the best bodies for this class(MX-STANG) that just keeps getting lost in all the back and forth about another body. The MX-Stang is lightweight compared to PF bodies and it mounts much much lower on your car....which IMO is a bigger concern than the actual weight of body. Sorry the other one does not fit with what we are doing.
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Old 09-06-2016 | 02:33 PM
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Originally Posted by Kevin K
In the end its good that so many of you enjoy racing USGT that you need to come on the internetz and have these "spirited" debates or dishing out a horse beating. If this class sucked no one would care...

With regards to the list if there is something that you would like to see please send myself or rob a message we are always willing to look at a body and see if it fits with our class structure.

With regards to Flying M he has one of the best bodies for this class(MX-STANG) that just keeps getting lost in all the back and forth about another body. The MX-Stang is lightweight compared to PF bodies and it mounts much much lower on your car....which IMO is a bigger concern than the actual weight of body. Sorry the other one does not fit with what we are doing.
I have had an MX-Stang mounted for the past two weeks and it's the best body I've used. Ive had the Cadillac, Celica, PFM-10, BMW and I'm sure a couple more. I only learned about the Stang after someone posted on here as bout it. Awesome!!!!
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Old 09-06-2016 | 02:48 PM
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Originally Posted by greghalstead
I have had an MX-Stang mounted for the past two weeks and it's the best body I've used. Ive had the Cadillac, Celica, PFM-10, BMW and I'm sure a couple more. I only learned about the Stang after someone posted on here as bout it. Awesome!!!!
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Old 09-06-2016 | 03:20 PM
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Keeping with the spirit of USGT ( Looks like a REAL GT car )

Just got done with my USGT for the southern national in Nashville.
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Old 09-06-2016 | 03:32 PM
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Old 09-06-2016 | 03:39 PM
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Originally Posted by EricPF
Hey Bob,
It's not so much the body posts as it is the shock towers. Test fitting on my TC7, a T4'16 and a TRF419, you simply cant get the rear of the body low enough. The shock towers hit the air channels. The 190 version will have some "design concessions" made in this area to create clearance, as well as being narrowed up to better fit the track width.
Ericc, I'm interested in both the 190mm as well as the 1/8th scale version of the Ford GT.
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Old 09-06-2016 | 04:10 PM
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Originally Posted by Metalsoft
Keeping with the spirit of USGT ( Looks like a REAL GT car )

Just got done with my USGT for the southern national in Nashville.
looks good....

make sure you get sign up

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Old 09-06-2016 | 05:28 PM
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Originally Posted by Metalsoft
Keeping with the spirit of USGT ( Looks like a REAL GT car )
I see your NSX with my GTR and raise you a 458. But I'm still looking for a nice wing for the 458.

BTW, Nice NSX!
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Old 09-06-2016 | 05:34 PM
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Scargoes and Metalsoft nice work.
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Old 09-06-2016 | 05:35 PM
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Originally Posted by Scargoes
I see your NSX with my GTR and raise you a 458. But I'm still looking for a nice wing for the 458.

BTW, Nice NSX!
Thanks man. That 458 is sweet! So is that GTR

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