Tamiya mini cooper
Which leads to my next step. I want to REDUCE the rear toe-in on my V2 to allow more rotation.
Ok so I have the teu101bk esc which is rated at 60A...the power cables going from the motor look to be hard wired to the circuit in the esc. The new motor has new power wires with it but how do u change them? I can't see inside the esc to see if they are soldered on or attached by connectors? How do u change them to attach the new motor to the esc?
if you stay in the RC hobby for any length of time, you will become an expert at soldering...
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No I'm just getting a brushed LRP F1. Pretty decent looking motor for the price. It should draw 22 amps @ 167 watts (the motor rating). Do I just use the esc wires already on the esc I have?? The teu101bk is rated at 60A so I'm good there...hopefully lol
I would verify the number of turns the 101BK can handle. I thought they were only good to about a SportTuned motor (23turns)? 
BTW, you might want to get a glitch capacitor if you encounter radio problems as the TEU101BK's BEC is kinda weak.
I know cause that's what I run on my M03. I'm going to swap it out with a TBLE02-S later on as I only run silver cans myself..
As for soldering, get a 50W or higher soldering iron. 25w is too low and can damage your motor and ESC, even DEANS connectors as it takes too long to heat up the terminals. I use a 60/40 rosin core solder.
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Oh ok, cool about the brushed.
I would verify the number of turns the 101BK can handle. I thought they were only good to about a SportTuned motor (23turns)? 
BTW, you might want to get a glitch capacitor if you encounter radio problems as the TEU101BK's BEC is kinda weak.
I know cause that's what I run on my M03. I'm going to swap it out with a TBLE02-S later on as I only run silver cans myself..
As for soldering, get a 50W or higher soldering iron. 25w is too low and can damage your motor and ESC, even DEANS connectors as it takes too long to heat up the terminals. I use a 60/40 rosin core solder.
I would verify the number of turns the 101BK can handle. I thought they were only good to about a SportTuned motor (23turns)? 
BTW, you might want to get a glitch capacitor if you encounter radio problems as the TEU101BK's BEC is kinda weak.
I know cause that's what I run on my M03. I'm going to swap it out with a TBLE02-S later on as I only run silver cans myself..
As for soldering, get a 50W or higher soldering iron. 25w is too low and can damage your motor and ESC, even DEANS connectors as it takes too long to heat up the terminals. I use a 60/40 rosin core solder.
Why not go with the SportTuned motor? Easy, maintenance free besides oiling, and faster than silver can.
Do you have a comm lathe? If not I recommend you go with the SportTuned.
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Current draw. 16turn brushed is quite fast for m-chassis. Might be happy running 27turn brushed (old "stock" motor). Still much faster than silver can.
Why not go with the SportTuned motor? Easy, maintenance free besides oiling, and faster than silver can.
Do you have a comm lathe? If not I recommend you go with the SportTuned.
Why not go with the SportTuned motor? Easy, maintenance free besides oiling, and faster than silver can.
Do you have a comm lathe? If not I recommend you go with the SportTuned.
From an equipment perspective, you need the right iron for the job. If you are soldering components with a large metal area, like the terminals on a speed control with direct connects to the circuit board, you need either a large wattage iron, or one with a medium to large tip that can hold a lot of heat. The wattage of the iron really determines how quickly the tip will heat up, or how quickly the iron will replace the heat transferred to the components. Lower wattage, larger tip works the same as large wattage, smaller tip. For solder, use a good rosin core 60/40 lead-tin thin gauge solder.
make sure that the points of connection are bare and clean, then tin both components to be joined before soldering them together. Keep the tip of your soldering iron clean too, as this helps in quickly transferring heat to the components to be soldered. If you are holding the soldering iron onto the components for more than 20-30 seconds to get the solder to flow, your iron is either not hot enough or not powerful enough.
I hate to say it, but your best reference is to watch a couple videos on youtube.
A 16t motor won't destroy gears. It has less torque but more speed. I suppose if you crashed into things at that higher speed, there could be some increased "wear". A comm lathe is completely unnecessary, unless your racing and trying to squeeze the last nth from you motor. Keep it clean, it'll be fine.
Sakadachi,there are several things that will help the back of you car loosen up. Reduced toe is just one. There's also stiffer springs, narrower track (not wider), harder tires, slightly higher ride height...lots of little tricks.
Scott, are you on vacation? You're awfully chatty right now.
Sakadachi,there are several things that will help the back of you car loosen up. Reduced toe is just one. There's also stiffer springs, narrower track (not wider), harder tires, slightly higher ride height...lots of little tricks.
Scott, are you on vacation? You're awfully chatty right now.
Also the Voodoo drops Granpa mentioned cleans the comm so I use that every now and then as well, but not required.
The SportTuned has less torque but higher RPM, which is a good match for these FWD M-chassis for bashing in low to moderate traction surfaces. And they run pretty much forever with little maintenance.

My V2 has a lot of work to do..
Thought it was fast until I started messing with the Sabre.
using a decent quality, hard coated pinion gear, like the Tamiya 53509, will extend your gear life significantly. Yeah racing also makes one - just be sure you use 0.6 module pinions.
As for the limits of the 101BK ESC, I have personally used it with 19t and 27t brushed open endbell motors. it hit the thermal shutoff about 3 minutes into a 5 minute race with the 19t, but no problems on the 27t. Bashing, you might be OK with the 16t, but the ESC will likely get rather warm - definitely will not be able to run back-to-back without waiting for it to cool down.



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