Kyosho Ultima SC6 Thread.......
#1051
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Here's my MM with a square pack sideways but it will work with a stick pack. I considering the track med/high bite. I typically run SS on all corners. If I want less steering, i put clays up front.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z4SfPIQG1U0
#1053
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I am on gold coast australia and plan to run at a indoor clay track where people of reported in this thread problems of stripped idle gears.
I am in process of switching to mid motor and would like to use your experience to help prevent myself and other people from having this problem.
I did a quick pic with mobile phone and messy text to try to show a picture of what i am seeing as the issue.
I am working with what i have
Page 23 of the manual states to use 2 x 0.5 shim/spacer (i didnt have them as i purchased 2nd hand roller with new mid motor kit-unused)
I did have
1 x UM726 that has a 1mm shim + 0.5mm shim
With 0.5 shim there was a gap on top screws mounting into Red Exotek rear block.
With 1mm shim it seems perfect, to show i can slide a very slim bit of paper under rear of gear box (less than 0.5mm)
Thoughts?
Edit uploaded better quality pic no gearbox
I am in process of switching to mid motor and would like to use your experience to help prevent myself and other people from having this problem.
I did a quick pic with mobile phone and messy text to try to show a picture of what i am seeing as the issue.
I am working with what i have
Page 23 of the manual states to use 2 x 0.5 shim/spacer (i didnt have them as i purchased 2nd hand roller with new mid motor kit-unused)
I did have
1 x UM726 that has a 1mm shim + 0.5mm shim
With 0.5 shim there was a gap on top screws mounting into Red Exotek rear block.
With 1mm shim it seems perfect, to show i can slide a very slim bit of paper under rear of gear box (less than 0.5mm)
Thoughts?
Edit uploaded better quality pic no gearbox
Last edited by Dmitri Tech; 04-03-2015 at 07:45 PM.
#1054
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This is after first time putting 2 batteries through the car on a track.
I broke a ball stud (see pics) in a V2 0" Hub
When i went to check other side later that day i found the other side was bent.
Both sides had significant wear, it may be just from setup.
The rear had quite a lot of toe in.
I couldn't find anyone else in thread comment about it.
Anyone else come accross this?
I broke a ball stud (see pics) in a V2 0" Hub
When i went to check other side later that day i found the other side was bent.
Both sides had significant wear, it may be just from setup.
The rear had quite a lot of toe in.
I couldn't find anyone else in thread comment about it.
Anyone else come accross this?
#1055
I am on gold coast australia and plan to run at a indoor clay track where people of reported in this thread problems of stripped idle gears.
I am in process of switching to mid motor and would like to use your experience to help prevent myself and other people from having this problem.
I did a quick pic with mobile phone and messy text to try to show a picture of what i am seeing as the issue.
I am working with what i have
Page 23 of the manual states to use 2 x 0.5 shim/spacer (i didnt have them as i purchased 2nd hand roller with new mid motor kit-unused)
I did have
1 x UM726 that has a 1mm shim + 0.5mm shim
With 0.5 shim there was a gap on top screws mounting into Red Exotek rear block.
With 1mm shim it seems perfect, to show i can slide a very slim bit of paper under rear of gear box (less than 0.5mm)
Thoughts?
Edit uploaded better quality pic no gearbox
I am in process of switching to mid motor and would like to use your experience to help prevent myself and other people from having this problem.
I did a quick pic with mobile phone and messy text to try to show a picture of what i am seeing as the issue.
I am working with what i have
Page 23 of the manual states to use 2 x 0.5 shim/spacer (i didnt have them as i purchased 2nd hand roller with new mid motor kit-unused)
I did have
1 x UM726 that has a 1mm shim + 0.5mm shim
With 0.5 shim there was a gap on top screws mounting into Red Exotek rear block.
With 1mm shim it seems perfect, to show i can slide a very slim bit of paper under rear of gear box (less than 0.5mm)
Thoughts?
Edit uploaded better quality pic no gearbox
Someone else in the thread had mentioned a simular feeling tightening up the bottom screws I believe.
#1056
I am on gold coast australia and plan to run at a indoor clay track where people of reported in this thread problems of stripped idle gears.
I am in process of switching to mid motor and would like to use your experience to help prevent myself and other people from having this problem.
I did a quick pic with mobile phone and messy text to try to show a picture of what i am seeing as the issue.
I am working with what i have
Page 23 of the manual states to use 2 x 0.5 shim/spacer (i didnt have them as i purchased 2nd hand roller with new mid motor kit-unused)
I did have
1 x UM726 that has a 1mm shim + 0.5mm shim
With 0.5 shim there was a gap on top screws mounting into Red Exotek rear block.
With 1mm shim it seems perfect, to show i can slide a very slim bit of paper under rear of gear box (less than 0.5mm)
Thoughts?
Edit uploaded better quality pic no gearbox
I am in process of switching to mid motor and would like to use your experience to help prevent myself and other people from having this problem.
I did a quick pic with mobile phone and messy text to try to show a picture of what i am seeing as the issue.
I am working with what i have
Page 23 of the manual states to use 2 x 0.5 shim/spacer (i didnt have them as i purchased 2nd hand roller with new mid motor kit-unused)
I did have
1 x UM726 that has a 1mm shim + 0.5mm shim
With 0.5 shim there was a gap on top screws mounting into Red Exotek rear block.
With 1mm shim it seems perfect, to show i can slide a very slim bit of paper under rear of gear box (less than 0.5mm)
Thoughts?
Edit uploaded better quality pic no gearbox
http://www.amain.com/rc-cars/kyosho-...umw718/p273875
I do not know if you have tried this upgraded idler gear yet?
#1057
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Be nice to be able to document the info so in the future it will save people pull down repairs and frustration.
#1058
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I run the kyosho aluminum idler gear in my mid-motor gear box and have not had a problem. Just one aluminum gear and one plastic idler gear together. Because kyosho states that plastic/metal/plastic/metal gear combo is best to free up the transmission. From my experience it works quite well! I have run this in my RB6 also and I have never stripped an idler gear in either the SC6 or the RB6 in midship running 17.5.
http://www.amain.com/rc-cars/kyosho-...umw718/p273875
I do not know if you have tried this upgraded idler gear yet?
http://www.amain.com/rc-cars/kyosho-...umw718/p273875
I do not know if you have tried this upgraded idler gear yet?
New plastic idle gear
UMW718 Aluminium Idle gear for Metal, plastic, metal ect
SCH1304 Schelle Slipper kit plus top shaft
MIP puck system
Schelle bearings Mid Motor
Waiting on b-fast diff parts to finalize everything
I just want to get it right the first time.
1mm shim / spacer looks right for me, the manual says 2 x 0.5mm shim but i only have
1 x 0.5mm
1 x 1mm
0.5mm shim is not enough and i can see it causing a problem.
#1059
Are there any videos on youtube of your track so we can give better advice? 90% run MM at our track but it's big and "flowing"...
Here's my MM with a square pack sideways but it will work with a stick pack. I considering the track med/high bite. I typically run SS on all corners. If I want less steering, i put clays up front.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z4SfPIQG1U0
Here's my MM with a square pack sideways but it will work with a stick pack. I considering the track med/high bite. I typically run SS on all corners. If I want less steering, i put clays up front.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z4SfPIQG1U0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rDFvWJwYLQY
We also run SS tires.
#1061
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[QUOTE=Dmitri Tech;13942033]This is after first time putting 2 batteries through the car on a track.
I broke a ball stud (see pics) in a V2 0" Hub
When i went to check other side later that day i found the other side was bent.
Both sides had significant wear, it may be just from setup.
The rear had quite a lot of toe in.
I couldn't find anyone else in thread comment about it.
Anyone else come accross this?[/QUOTE
Were you running any spacers between the ballstud and hub? If so what material? Aluminum or plastic? In the case you were running plastic try and use aluminum, the plastic spacers will flex under heavy loads causing the ballstuds to bend/ snap.
I broke a ball stud (see pics) in a V2 0" Hub
When i went to check other side later that day i found the other side was bent.
Both sides had significant wear, it may be just from setup.
The rear had quite a lot of toe in.
I couldn't find anyone else in thread comment about it.
Anyone else come accross this?[/QUOTE
Were you running any spacers between the ballstud and hub? If so what material? Aluminum or plastic? In the case you were running plastic try and use aluminum, the plastic spacers will flex under heavy loads causing the ballstuds to bend/ snap.
#1062
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So it looks like just about everyone runs this truck mid motor. The track I race on is really low grip, all of the fastest trucks run rear motor, the tires of choice are usually a square fuzzie, gridiron, impact or something along those lines. So my question is how much rear traction does the mid motor set up have and should I just build it rear motor like I was planning on?
#1063
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This is after first time putting 2 batteries through the car on a track.
I broke a ball stud (see pics) in a V2 0" Hub
When i went to check other side later that day i found the other side was bent.
Both sides had significant wear, it may be just from setup.
The rear had quite a lot of toe in.
I couldn't find anyone else in thread comment about it.
Anyone else come accross this?
I broke a ball stud (see pics) in a V2 0" Hub
When i went to check other side later that day i found the other side was bent.
Both sides had significant wear, it may be just from setup.
The rear had quite a lot of toe in.
I couldn't find anyone else in thread comment about it.
Anyone else come accross this?
#1064
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Here is a short video, the layout is a little different but not much.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rDFvWJwYLQY
We also run SS tires.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rDFvWJwYLQY
We also run SS tires.



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