Tamiya TRF419
#1201
then call me a certified nut! ETS setup made the car smooth like butter. The car feels planted without being pushy or traction rolling (it's weird). I wanted a good starting point and Marc's setup was Gold on the high traction carpet we play on.
#1202
Joined: Jul 2010
Posts: 2,741
I did say "blindly" - what you've done is give it thought, ie: use it as a base, not expect a panacea (although, you might get one)
#1203
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i just recently bought a 419 and am having an issue with binding in the front. It seems to be coming from the ball end that goes into the steering block/chub. Any tamiya ball cup i put on the silver/grey ball ends seem to bind slightly and affect the free movement of the arms. All the other ball ends and cups are super smooth despite the reamed hole i put in them... ? anyone else have this issue?
#1204
i just recently bought a 419 and am having an issue with binding in the front. It seems to be coming from the ball end that goes into the steering block/chub. Any tamiya ball cup i put on the silver/grey ball ends seem to bind slightly and affect the free movement of the arms. All the other ball ends and cups are super smooth despite the reamed hole i put in them... ? anyone else have this issue?
If you want it as free as the rest of the car, use the 1mm higher version included in the 54075 set. But of course you need to be aware that it raises the ball by 1mm. The other way is to try to free up the ball cup...pliers, heat etc., there are different ways to do this, but I personally prefer to change the ball connector.
#1205
http://www.stellamodels.com.hk/42280...ml-p-8499.html

It got MUCH better. Eventually they ware in and become free like the other ball cups
#1206
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Joined: Jul 2006
Posts: 1,126
From: La Mirada, CA
i just recently bought a 419 and am having an issue with binding in the front. It seems to be coming from the ball end that goes into the steering block/chub. Any tamiya ball cup i put on the silver/grey ball ends seem to bind slightly and affect the free movement of the arms. All the other ball ends and cups are super smooth despite the reamed hole i put in them... ? anyone else have this issue?

- Jose
#1208
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Joined: Jul 2004
Posts: 562
From: Somewhere, but not here...
I was wondering to myself after working on my build for the 419, what are the effects on chassis flex characteristics by sealing the edge of the chassis with CA vs Loctite.
A while back, I built an Exotek conversion for the EVO5 where the instructions recommended to use Loctite instead of CA to seal the chassis edges so as to minimize changes to the chassis flex characteristics that CA apparently causes.
Since I don't have more than one 419 chassis or a test method to produce quantitative data, I was curious if anyone had any qualitative experience with using Loctite vs. CA to seal a chassis edge.
In the end, CA seems to be the obvious choice to minimize delamination over Loctite.
This is probably not even worth thinking about, I often get random thoughts like this. Please pardon the lunacy.
A while back, I built an Exotek conversion for the EVO5 where the instructions recommended to use Loctite instead of CA to seal the chassis edges so as to minimize changes to the chassis flex characteristics that CA apparently causes.
Since I don't have more than one 419 chassis or a test method to produce quantitative data, I was curious if anyone had any qualitative experience with using Loctite vs. CA to seal a chassis edge.
In the end, CA seems to be the obvious choice to minimize delamination over Loctite.
This is probably not even worth thinking about, I often get random thoughts like this. Please pardon the lunacy.
#1209
I was wondering to myself after working on my build for the 419, what are the effects on chassis flex characteristics by sealing the edge of the chassis with CA vs Loctite.
A while back, I built an Exotek conversion for the EVO5 where the instructions recommended to use Loctite instead of CA to seal the chassis edges so as to minimize changes to the chassis flex characteristics that CA apparently causes.
Since I don't have more than one 419 chassis or a test method to produce quantitative data, I was curious if anyone had any qualitative experience with using Loctite vs. CA to seal a chassis edge.
In the end, CA seems to be the obvious choice to minimize delamination over Loctite.
This is probably not even worth thinking about, I often get random thoughts like this. Please pardon the lunacy.
A while back, I built an Exotek conversion for the EVO5 where the instructions recommended to use Loctite instead of CA to seal the chassis edges so as to minimize changes to the chassis flex characteristics that CA apparently causes.
Since I don't have more than one 419 chassis or a test method to produce quantitative data, I was curious if anyone had any qualitative experience with using Loctite vs. CA to seal a chassis edge.
In the end, CA seems to be the obvious choice to minimize delamination over Loctite.
This is probably not even worth thinking about, I often get random thoughts like this. Please pardon the lunacy.
#1210
I was wondering to myself after working on my build for the 419, what are the effects on chassis flex characteristics by sealing the edge of the chassis with CA vs Loctite.
A while back, I built an Exotek conversion for the EVO5 where the instructions recommended to use Loctite instead of CA to seal the chassis edges so as to minimize changes to the chassis flex characteristics that CA apparently causes.
Since I don't have more than one 419 chassis or a test method to produce quantitative data, I was curious if anyone had any qualitative experience with using Loctite vs. CA to seal a chassis edge.
In the end, CA seems to be the obvious choice to minimize delamination over Loctite.
This is probably not even worth thinking about, I often get random thoughts like this. Please pardon the lunacy.
A while back, I built an Exotek conversion for the EVO5 where the instructions recommended to use Loctite instead of CA to seal the chassis edges so as to minimize changes to the chassis flex characteristics that CA apparently causes.
Since I don't have more than one 419 chassis or a test method to produce quantitative data, I was curious if anyone had any qualitative experience with using Loctite vs. CA to seal a chassis edge.
In the end, CA seems to be the obvious choice to minimize delamination over Loctite.
This is probably not even worth thinking about, I often get random thoughts like this. Please pardon the lunacy.
I very lightly (q-tip/tire CA) used CA to seal the edge of a exotek TA-05 ver 2 chassis that later developed a tweak. I left the edges unsealed on my 417 and it's still as straight as a razor.
I have no plans on sealing the edges on my new 419
#1211
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Posts: 252
I seal all my carbon chassis... but we also have wood as boards here..
I do wonder at times bc i do find my cars having odd tweak at times but in no way can i tell if its CA glue on chassis or weight balance of chassis...
I glue for chipping edges or at least a bit of prevention.
As for 419 binding run the car... it will break in... my arms drop freely... but not when it was first on the bench...
i am still finding the rear diff causing major issues...
Other then the leaking outdrives I find the rear gear strips out from the small pin Tamyia still uses...
I run mod and if i get tapped in the rear while on the brakes the rear diff gear goes...
Anyone else?
I do wonder at times bc i do find my cars having odd tweak at times but in no way can i tell if its CA glue on chassis or weight balance of chassis...
I glue for chipping edges or at least a bit of prevention.
As for 419 binding run the car... it will break in... my arms drop freely... but not when it was first on the bench...
i am still finding the rear diff causing major issues...
Other then the leaking outdrives I find the rear gear strips out from the small pin Tamyia still uses...
I run mod and if i get tapped in the rear while on the brakes the rear diff gear goes...
Anyone else?
#1213
I seal all my carbon chassis... but we also have wood as boards here..
I do wonder at times bc i do find my cars having odd tweak at times but in no way can i tell if its CA glue on chassis or weight balance of chassis...
I glue for chipping edges or at least a bit of prevention.
As for 419 binding run the car... it will break in... my arms drop freely... but not when it was first on the bench...
i am still finding the rear diff causing major issues...
Other then the leaking outdrives I find the rear gear strips out from the small pin Tamyia still uses...
I run mod and if i get tapped in the rear while on the brakes the rear diff gear goes...
Anyone else?
I do wonder at times bc i do find my cars having odd tweak at times but in no way can i tell if its CA glue on chassis or weight balance of chassis...
I glue for chipping edges or at least a bit of prevention.
As for 419 binding run the car... it will break in... my arms drop freely... but not when it was first on the bench...
i am still finding the rear diff causing major issues...
Other then the leaking outdrives I find the rear gear strips out from the small pin Tamyia still uses...
I run mod and if i get tapped in the rear while on the brakes the rear diff gear goes...
Anyone else?
FWIW an NT1 gear fitted in there perfect, they must have modeled the new gears on them...not going to strip that sucker
#1215
Joined: Jul 2010
Posts: 2,741



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