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Old 01-21-2015 | 07:16 AM
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Originally Posted by Afun
Long time Kyosho driver. I have also owned a couple of EB48's. I'm excited about building this NB48. I got a couple of questions....didn't want to bother my team manager. What size is the flywheel? 34mm...same as Losi. Rear motor position not very popular? No, most people like the front position. It has more corner speed and still plenty of rear traction. What is the equivalent to Tekno 450 or 350 oil...and the Tekno diff oil? Tekno oils are in CST. Associated oils have the CST rating on the bottle. So Tekno 450 would be in between AE 35wt and 37.5wt. Tekno 350 would be equal to AE 30wt. oil. A lot of folks love the PT racing oils. They also measure in CST. I don't think Tekno sells oil. Good starting point box set-up or Lutz Fall Brawl or Battle of the Sickest? I've ran the box setup and the Mo Denton setups, both are great starting points. I'll probably try a Lutz setup this year. 6 washers on Ackerman popular?
I think I've only seen setup sheets with 4 washers used (either 4 on top or bottom or 2 top/2 bottom), but I could be wrong.

Thanks ahead of time. I am sure I will have more questions.
Here's my stab at your questions.
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Old 01-21-2015 | 07:32 AM
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Thank you Bortzilla! Hope they get these NB48's in stock soon.
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Old 01-21-2015 | 08:03 AM
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I think the 6 washers you're seeing on the setup sheet are the ones that go into the spindle to limit overall steering throw.
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Old 01-21-2015 | 08:44 AM
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for oil charts… this one is the one I follow

http://www.petitrc.com/reglages/OilChart.pdf
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Old 01-21-2015 | 09:07 AM
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Originally Posted by Matthew_Armeni
I think the 6 washers you're seeing on the setup sheet are the ones that go into the spindle to limit overall steering throw.
Matthew always so helpful, you are correct.
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Old 01-21-2015 | 10:18 AM
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My Mental Debate Right Now is Diff Oils AE 7,7,5 vs 5,5,3. If the buggy is a bit loose like its older bro the EB....I think I would want more diff action....where are you guys at with this?
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Old 01-21-2015 | 10:23 AM
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I like 553 or 543 in really loose conditions. High bite conditions I like 775.
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Old 01-21-2015 | 10:26 AM
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Excellent. For those who are racing both the NB and EB.....whats the biggest difference in set-up?
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Old 01-21-2015 | 11:07 AM
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This past weekend at Midwest nitro champs on high bite I ended up at 10-7-5 but I always start with 7-7-5. My setups between the two are very similar but more because I focus on my NB48 setup and if a change feels good I tend to try it on the EB48.2 as well, I prefer to run both nitro classes and i only run e buggy if there are more than 150 entries.
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Old 01-21-2015 | 11:11 AM
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Anyone running the reds quattro clutch on this buggy? What clutchbell you use etc etc
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Old 01-21-2015 | 02:54 PM
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Anyone running the reds quattro clutch on this buggy? What clutchbell you use etc etc
From what I'm seeing, it appears the Tekno clutch setup is a bit longer than most other manufactures. In turn, it seems like all other setups you put on the NB48 may be a little to short or not make full contact with the spur. I shimmed my quattro about 1.5 behind the collet which I really don't want to do long term and .5 between the nut and bell. The issue with that is you end up with less threads gripping on the clutch nut. Technically it works but there is a lot to go wrong.

Still investigating myself, but interested if someone else has a good fix.
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Old 01-21-2015 | 05:24 PM
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Originally Posted by Afun
My Mental Debate Right Now is Diff Oils AE 7,7,5 vs 5,5,3. If the buggy is a bit loose like its older bro the EB....I think I would want more diff action....where are you guys at with this?
On med to low bite tracks i run AE 6.7k (its when you fill 7k up to the crosspins and add few drops of 5k oil) in front, 5k in center and rear diffs. With proper tire choice traction was very predictable, i was able to hold the line or drop it and make some powersteer.
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Old 01-21-2015 | 05:49 PM
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Originally Posted by RokleM
From what I'm seeing, it appears the Tekno clutch setup is a bit longer than most other manufactures. In turn, it seems like all other setups you put on the NB48 may be a little to short or not make full contact with the spur. I shimmed my quattro about 1.5 behind the collet which I really don't want to do long term and .5 between the nut and bell. The issue with that is you end up with less threads gripping on the clutch nut. Technically it works but there is a lot to go wrong.

Still investigating myself, but interested if someone else has a good fix.


You should try the stock clutch with Dynamite Max-Life shoes....
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Old 01-21-2015 | 09:04 PM
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Hey guys. I have been running the NB48 for quite a few months now out at Fear Farm and have noticed a couple things. For one I do love this car, but it seems like anything close to the stock setup can be maxed out pretty quickly for a good driver. I have been driving the car and as soon as I got used to it, I felt like the car was on the edge all the time. This is normal to feel in a car when the setup is being pushed to its absolute max, and this is exactly how I felt with it.

Since then I have been playing with setups to help combat what I think is the issue, the diff oils. I feel like the need for the 775 diff oil setup on a higher bite track was because the chassis was not as stable as it should be, which in turn makes the setup need some sort of "bandaid" in order to help stabilize the setup. The 775 diff setup worked well, but for me it actually held me back.

After experimenting for a few weeks, I came up with this setup. It allows me to use the LRC plate at our high bite track with ruts without fear of rolling over whenever taking a corner at extremely high speeds, the chassis setup has been more stable thus allowing me to drop the diff oils to give the car a more aggressive, responsive setup, but the biggest thing I have noticed in the car since running this setup is that I have restored the consistency. I'm sure many of you have noticed this, but with the same setup, as you near the setup's limits as far as speed the car loses its consistency. You just can't run a car at 100% capacity all the time, its just not possible. So by experimenting with the heavier spring setup, I have stabilized the car, raised its limits and thus made the car both faster and more consistent for me.

I encourage you guys to try out the setup, and the reason I wanted to post it now, is because I know that many of you will be heading out to the Dirt Nitro Challenge next month, and I feel that this is a much better setup to start with in the qualifying rounds given my abundance of experience at this track. I have asked for this setup to be posted on the Website as well, but it hasn't as of yet, but may be in the near future.

https://drive.google.com/file/d/0ByD...ew?usp=sharing

Anyone that does try it, feel free to ask any questions or let me know your experience with it, along with the track type. I am always curious to know how it performs at tracks that do not have many similarities to my home track.
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Old 01-21-2015 | 10:21 PM
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Originally Posted by Sean Dickinson
Hey guys. I have been running the NB48 for quite a few months now out at Fear Farm and have noticed a couple things. For one I do love this car, but it seems like anything close to the stock setup can be maxed out pretty quickly for a good driver. I have been driving the car and as soon as I got used to it, I felt like the car was on the edge all the time. This is normal to feel in a car when the setup is being pushed to its absolute max, and this is exactly how I felt with it.

Since then I have been playing with setups to help combat what I think is the issue, the diff oils. I feel like the need for the 775 diff oil setup on a higher bite track was because the chassis was not as stable as it should be, which in turn makes the setup need some sort of "bandaid" in order to help stabilize the setup. The 775 diff setup worked well, but for me it actually held me back.

After experimenting for a few weeks, I came up with this setup. It allows me to use the LRC plate at our high bite track with ruts without fear of rolling over whenever taking a corner at extremely high speeds, the chassis setup has been more stable thus allowing me to drop the diff oils to give the car a more aggressive, responsive setup, but the biggest thing I have noticed in the car since running this setup is that I have restored the consistency. I'm sure many of you have noticed this, but with the same setup, as you near the setup's limits as far as speed the car loses its consistency. You just can't run a car at 100% capacity all the time, its just not possible. So by experimenting with the heavier spring setup, I have stabilized the car, raised its limits and thus made the car both faster and more consistent for me.

I encourage you guys to try out the setup, and the reason I wanted to post it now, is because I know that many of you will be heading out to the Dirt Nitro Challenge next month, and I feel that this is a much better setup to start with in the qualifying rounds given my abundance of experience at this track. I have asked for this setup to be posted on the Website as well, but it hasn't as of yet, but may be in the near future.

https://drive.google.com/file/d/0ByD...ew?usp=sharing

Anyone that does try it, feel free to ask any questions or let me know your experience with it, along with the track type. I am always curious to know how it performs at tracks that do not have many similarities to my home track.
thanks sean… building my new nb48 next week… similar conditions to fear farm

questions:
1. what CSI bladder? black or blue?
2. what oil? asso or losi?
3. what diff oil brand?
4. what purple spring?
5. do you tested without the +2 and +1 hex?

thanks
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