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Old 06-11-2014 | 09:56 PM
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Agree on set camber with set up wheels or a station is more accurate. Still think a sanity check once tyres are mounted is a good idea.

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So u say leave everything attached but yet on the pictures u posted back a page ur shocks aren't connected lol. I'm going to leave everything attached when I set it
That was just to get the droop gauge to a spot that could be photographed better
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Old 06-11-2014 | 11:10 PM
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If your droop or tweek changes with the sway bar or the shocks attached or detached, something is wrong...
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Old 06-12-2014 | 01:13 AM
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Those trying the TRF set ups, are you using the HPI silver medium springs?
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Yes.
Anyone have a source for the HPI silvers? They're a little hard to find! Thanks!
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Old 06-12-2014 | 02:03 AM
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Originally Posted by niznai
Checking camber with tires on can be misleading very easily as rims are not perfectly true or have tiny differences from moulding, etc.

Camber is also a measure of the way suspension is going to work rather than how the tires sit on the car (I guess what I mean here is that camber tells you how the car is going to sit on the tires not the other way around).

Measuring things on a setup station can pinpoint problems not so evident when measuring things on the car ready to race. I quickly check everything after a run, and if the car behaved and there are no obvious issues, I leave it alone. If there are obvious problems during a run, I start checking on the bench, but if I can't see/find anything, it's setup station time.
Yup agreed. I do pretty much the same. I pop the car on the station between race meetings to check everything is aligned. The 418 is very resistant to tweak, but even minor collisons with a board can just move the camber out a little. Not enough to usually bother me between races, but I like to check the car is reset to my set-up before the next race meeting.

I disconnect shocks / roll bars for downstops always have done. I only use set-up wheels to measure tweak. (I just use gauges for cambre) I have the car fully loaded with the race tyres to measure ride height.

Not raced for 2 weeks so feeling a little rusty, hopefully racing tonight though
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Old 06-12-2014 | 02:21 AM
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Originally Posted by LAGuy
Anyone have a source for the HPI silvers? They're a little hard to find! Thanks!
Seems the sets (75175) are easier to find than the silvers on their own (6543)

http://www.rcplanet.com/HPI_Spring_S...p/hpi75175.htm

Rather than buy two sets to get a pair of silvers I gave up and bought ride springs.

Happy with them.
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Old 06-12-2014 | 04:28 AM
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Originally Posted by cplus
Seems the sets (75175) are easier to find than the silvers on their own (6543)

http://www.rcplanet.com/HPI_Spring_S...p/hpi75175.htm

Rather than buy two sets to get a pair of silvers I gave up and bought ride springs.

Happy with them.
If your struggling to find HPI Silvers, try the Schumacher Greens from the Mi5. They are the same as the Silvers, down to wire thickness, coil count, overall diameter, and length.
Trying silvers and greens back to back, no difference on track
Schu Greens

However, silvers/greens vs ride red springs, there is a difference. The Rides are more progressive, so even though the rate is similar, the feel is quite different on track. They have their place (particularly very bumpy or very low traction, IMO)... But 95% of the time on asphalt, silvers are the go.

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Old 06-12-2014 | 05:06 AM
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Originally Posted by TryHard
If your struggling to find HPI Silvers, try the Schumacher Greens from the Mi5. They are the same as the Silvers, down to wire thickness, coil count, overall diameter, and length.
Trying silvers and greens back to back, no difference on track
Schu Greens

However, silvers/greens vs ride red springs, there is a difference. The Rides are more progressive, so even though the rate is similar, the feel is quite different on track. They have their place (particularly very bumpy or very low traction, IMO)... But 95% of the time on asphalt, silvers are the go.

HiH
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Interesting. I have been running Ride Reds for the last 3 weeks on our med-high bite asphalt track. What makes the HPI Silvers better than the more progressive Ride Reds on a higher bite surface? I am wondering if I should give the Silvers a shot again.
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Old 06-12-2014 | 05:12 AM
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Originally Posted by d16dcoe45
Interesting. I have been running Ride Reds for the last 3 weeks on our med-high bite asphalt track. What makes the HPI Silvers better than the more progressive Ride Reds on a higher bite surface? I am wondering if I should give the Silvers a shot again.
Simply put, more responsive. There is a very good reason the silvers are the most regularly used spring out there...
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Old 06-12-2014 | 09:04 AM
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Tower dropped the price back down to $500ish. I've been camping that page for a while now waiting for the drop :-)
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Old 06-12-2014 | 09:36 AM
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Tower dropped the price back down to $500ish. I've been camping that page for a while now waiting for the drop :-)
Don't forget the discount code drops it down to $454!!!!!
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Old 06-12-2014 | 09:41 AM
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Thats $429 for Tower club members who receive $75 off. Now that's very tempting

TamiyaUSA has the kit listed as discontinued. So tower is clearly trying to clear their inventory.
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Old 06-12-2014 | 10:05 AM
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There must be a 418X coming.
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Old 06-12-2014 | 04:35 PM
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Has anybody tried jilles "base setup" in 17.5? Was thinking about trying it but I'm not sure if it will be too planted for stock. Anybody that has tried it or someone that can suggest changes to it to make it better for stock would be awesome
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Old 06-12-2014 | 04:58 PM
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Does anyone know what springs came with the TRF418s that included additional parts? (arm, uprights, springs, swaybars).

I'm looking for the elusive HPI Silvers.. car came with a few extra springs I just don't know how close the included springs are compared to HPI Silvers.
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Old 06-12-2014 | 04:58 PM
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Originally Posted by CL
There must be a 418X coming.
kit has been out of stock all over, and no plans on getting a new batch. The X is definitely over the horizon.
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