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Old 06-05-2014, 01:30 AM
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Originally Posted by LAGuy
Those trying the TRF set ups, are you using the HPI silver medium springs?
Ride Red, Purple and Blue in my pit box.

Red is very close to HPI silver, basically identical rate - apparently "feel" slightly different.
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Old 06-05-2014, 10:11 AM
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TRF New shock spring
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Old 06-07-2014, 09:18 PM
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Originally Posted by torg
"The tapered face of the piston provides different damper characteristics to regular flat-faced pistons, increasing your setup options."

Different how? does anyone know?
Depending on which way the tapered side faces (up or down) you will have faster compression/slower rebound or slower compression/faster rebound. I haven't seen much TC use with them, seems like more of a drift thing right now.
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Old 06-08-2014, 11:55 AM
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What other spur gears fit with the 418 (besides Kawada and Panaracer)? Anyone try ARC spurs?

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Kawada super EX and panaracer fit.
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Old 06-08-2014, 01:45 PM
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+1 on what Quatmix said.

I've used Panaracer, Kawada, and Spec R spur gears. Panaracer combined with Xenon pinions offer a super smooth mesh. On the other hand, Kawadas are cool because their black and hide dirt

Ran Jilles setup yesterday at the Tamiya track again. Traction was less than that of the Reedy Race, yet was able to match the 13.5 fast lap of 12.6 Very promising. Also, a friend tested the setup as well, but with Xray springs of a *similar rate*...was frustrated and nearly kinked it on purpose to be done for the day. On the last run, he switched to HPI springs, which resulted in a quick, consistent, error free run, with a smile.
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Old 06-08-2014, 01:49 PM
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Ok thanks, hope to make it out to tamiya on Saturdays with my 418
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Hi guys, the 3hole piston on Jilles setup, what is the hole diameter (0.8mm, 1.1mm?)

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Old 06-08-2014, 02:49 PM
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Originally Posted by rtypec
+1 on what Quatmix said.

I've used Panaracer, Kawada, and Spec R spur gears. Panaracer combined with Xenon pinions offer a super smooth mesh. On the other hand, Kawadas are cool because their black and hide dirt

Ran Jilles setup yesterday at the Tamiya track again. Traction was less than that of the Reedy Race, yet was able to match the 13.5 fast lap of 12.6 Very promising. Also, a friend tested the setup as well, but with Xray springs of a *similar rate*...was frustrated and nearly kinked it on purpose to be done for the day. On the last run, he switched to HPI springs, which resulted in a quick, consistent, error free run, with a smile.
Sounds cool

How did you manage to get the droop setting? Did you measure it to the hingepin?
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Originally Posted by Qatmix
Sounds cool

How did you manage to get the droop setting? Did you measure it to the hingepin?
I measured to the center of the hingepin which translated to something that was way over 25mm in the front (measured from top of the axle to setup board) and 24.7mm in the rear. Front at 25mm felt best to me.
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Originally Posted by rtypec
Also, a friend tested the setup as well, but with Xray springs of a *similar rate*...was frustrated and nearly kinked it on purpose to be done for the day.
WOW that's frustrated like hide the sharp objects frustrated.

Originally Posted by LAGuy
Those trying the TRF set ups, are you using the HPI silver medium springs?
Yes.

(Scott that you?)
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Old 06-08-2014, 08:37 PM
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Originally Posted by Qatmix
Sounds cool

How did you manage to get the droop setting? Did you measure it to the hingepin?
I'll take a photo tonight.

Once I figured out his method, makes complete sense.
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Can I trouble somebody to measure the distance between the chassis and the top of the bulkhead where the ballstud screws in, please?
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Originally Posted by CraigMBA
Can I trouble somebody to measure the distance between the chassis and the top of the bulkhead where the ballstud screws in, please?
32mm
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As promised, how I understand Jilles is measuring droop.

"Normal" measurement, under the hub/arm at 5.5mm, using std TRF droop blocks and gauge.


Is equal to circa 9mm measured at the centre of the pin!


So at the rear, 8mm


Is about 4.3-4.4mm


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