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Old 04-14-2014 | 05:44 PM
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Originally Posted by Cain
been awhile, how are things everyone!

So, whats the hot extra low traction setup people are running now?


Well since i race on mostly low traction outdoor tracks not all ruff though i have my at 27mm f/r mostly because the track i was at was loose and blown out . 32w/1.2 / 30W/1.3 8 hole pistons. 1 negative on the Front camber /1/, 1/2 Rear camber to not grab ruts as easy. Droop i have the screws just touching the chassis (Mugen droop screws) .

Green springs all around . No center or rear chassis brace just the Front. 1-Front Toe out not sure the truck needs it though . Middle hole on the Front tower/middle hole on arm, 2nd hole inside on the Rear tower/middle hole on arms.

Soft Endoros which worked great on the loose dry tracks.
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Old 04-14-2014 | 05:50 PM
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Yeah, this truck has so much turn on I choose a little exit steering over entrance steering with as close as I can get to zero toe (eyeball on the setup board). Eyeball calibration is within 0.5° erroring on the side of toe out

This thing doesn't need help turning in
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Old 04-14-2014 | 06:05 PM
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Originally Posted by fq06
Yeah, this truck has so much turn on I choose a little exit steering over entrance steering with as close as I can get to zero toe (eyeball on the setup board). Eyeball calibration is within 0.5° erroring on the side of toe out

This thing doesn't need help turning in



Yea i could use more exiting steering actually . If anything getting rid of the toe out up front will make the truck easier drive.

How much better is the HD saver spring than the old stock one ? I have my tighten down a mill meter from stock.



Yea the truck does not need more turn in even with less steering throw .
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Old 04-14-2014 | 06:48 PM
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Those running the +1.5 RR block. Do you run dot out or dot middle most often?
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Old 04-14-2014 | 06:57 PM
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Originally Posted by iTz Nicholas72
Those running the +1.5 RR block. Do you run dot out or dot middle most often?
Middle dot. Outer dot is a bit too much rear toe in generally.
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Old 04-14-2014 | 07:07 PM
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Originally Posted by Bernard_Jr
I use a HW SCT Pro which uses punch control on a range of 1-9. Default is 5 and I took it down to 4 and dropped the temps about 10° and it still launched extremely well. I thought about going down to 3 but I'd rather get used to the acceleration and get the most out of it.

Pretty sure this is how it'll go for you. :

lol hope you like it.
Which motor did you run?

Does anyone use timing or boost with the 4-poles or just let the motor do the work?
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Old 04-14-2014 | 07:12 PM
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Originally Posted by fq06
A few people have asked recently but no new go to for super loose.

The arctic tundra over there should be thawing out by now right?
Go get one dialed in and post to Petit setups for other thread members

Yeah, just a wee bit warmer

Heard a rumor a track local may go in. I am crossing fingers.

Looking to try possibly 7-7-5 for loose conditions here with the BCE chassis. looking to play with toe settings for rotation versus using the rear diff fluid change for traction and rotation.

question now is which way to go with shocks. Thinking vented for consistency but I did like the feel of my daughters SCT410 with emulsion.

and may go with a lighter oil setup too on the 1.3 x 8 hole pistons, something I have been toying with trying.
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Old 04-14-2014 | 07:30 PM
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What about front inserts both for caster and sweep?

Have my shocks close to where I want then for each track I go to and now I want to get an idea for fine tuning. Start with what is common and then try different things from there...
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Old 04-14-2014 | 07:39 PM
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Tried something a little different

After running the truck for a few weeks stock I changed the diffs from 7-7-5 to 7-5-5 to hopefully get a bit more on power steering, it worked great but then I started wearing out front tires twice as fast as the rears, and the tires were top fueling it big time on the straights, in other words a lot of front tire spinning. so to hopefully help that I went to 7-6-5 in the diffs, big difference still has good on power steering, but the front tires stay planted and flat and after the race this weekend the tires were wearing very even front to back.

FYI I made my own 6k by carefully measuring half 7k and 5k with a syringe.

Very happy with the result

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Old 04-14-2014 | 07:47 PM
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I been using 5,7,3 on my 7 in the Front felt like i needed to wait for the truck to go though the turn like lazy. When i first drove this truck i had 7,5,3 the 5 in the center to me with a 4600kv felt sluggish not enough off power steering but than i had crappy springs etc.


Some of you guys must run on higher grip tracks running 5k in the rear diff . I do have 4k to try in the rear diff though but 3k seems to work on low grip.
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Old 04-14-2014 | 07:51 PM
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Went to the MotoGP race last weekend. This delayed the purchase of my SCT410 by a few weeks but I want to go ahead and buy all the tools I need so I will be ready to build as soon as it gets here. I need a full list of tools I will be using for the build along with any recommended tools for calibration or maintenance. Thanks in advanc.
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Old 04-14-2014 | 08:21 PM
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just to confirm as I haven't installed any of the 1.5+ brace stuff an settings, basically the brace is adding like 0.5 to the toe right? so the current max toe is like 4.5 stock, the .5 makes it with max settings like 5.0 or is really 1.5+ to the whole max toe?
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Old 04-14-2014 | 09:11 PM
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Originally Posted by RoyOne
Went to the MotoGP race last weekend. This delayed the purchase of my SCT410 by a few weeks but I want to go ahead and buy all the tools I need so I will be ready to build as soon as it gets here. I need a full list of tools I will be using for the build along with any recommended tools for calibration or maintenance. Thanks in advanc.
The required tools and parts will be in the front of the manual, available off of the website. Pretty much the whole build is 2 and 2.5 hex drivers, with a couple nut drivers or wrenches used for shock tower tops and outer hinge pins in the rear. Needle nose pliers will make the build much easier, as will attaching the steering servo linkage before putting the front of the truck on (though not horrible to get the nut in with the needle nose if you wait until the end).

A ride height gauge and a camber gauge will be the best way to measure your adjustments, rather then by length of turnbuckles as is listed during the build for rough guidance to start with. A stand to rest the shocks in, or a shock pump, will help you get a more consistent build more quickly and easily.
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Old 04-14-2014 | 10:25 PM
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Originally Posted by RoyOne
Went to the MotoGP race last weekend. This delayed the purchase of my SCT410 by a few weeks but I want to go ahead and buy all the tools I need so I will be ready to build as soon as it gets here. I need a full list of tools I will be using for the build along with any recommended tools for calibration or maintenance. Thanks in advanc.


Originally Posted by justpoet
The required tools and parts will be in the front of the manual, available off of the website. Pretty much the whole build is 2 and 2.5 hex drivers, with a couple nut drivers or wrenches used for shock tower tops and outer hinge pins in the rear. Needle nose pliers will make the build much easier, as will attaching the steering servo linkage before putting the front of the truck on (though not horrible to get the nut in with the needle nose if you wait until the end).

A ride height gauge and a camber gauge will be the best way to measure your adjustments, rather then by length of turnbuckles as is listed during the build for rough guidance to start with. A stand to rest the shocks in, or a shock pump, will help you get a more consistent build more quickly and easily.
My list looks like this:

Must have:
  • Hex drivers: 1.5mm, 2.0mm, 2.5mm (spend a few extra bucks and get good ones. You will use this WAY more than you think and a good set will last)
  • Nut drivers: 5.0mm, 5.5mm, 7.0mm
  • Needle nose pliers
  • Sharp hobby knife
  • two adjustable crescent wrenches or two 17mm crescent wrenches (for the shocks.) OR the APE shock tools
  • solder and soldering iron for motor, esc and battery connections
  • 4mm turnbuckle wrench
Recommended: (by me )
  • A decent power screwdriver with a 2.0mm and 2.5mm hex bits (your hands will thank you)
  • Shock snot, AE greens slime or losi shock lube for shock and diff o-rings
  • fine grit sandpaper for sanding diff cups flat
  • 4.2mm straight reamer for opening hinge pin holes in arms
  • Good double sided tape (Parma red backed clear tape is my favorite. Sticks like crazy but peals clean when you want to remove it)
  • Shock shaft pliers. So much better than marking up the shock shafts with the needle nose. Keep those shock shafts smooth

For setup and calibration: ride height gauge, a pair of digital calipers for droop setting and a camber gauge.


Maintenance: Simple green, spare shock and diff oils, a good grease for ring and pinion gears, electric motor cleaner is useful for many things, I like a dry silicon lube of some sort for turnbuckle balls and hinge pins, and most important... elbow grease.

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Old 04-15-2014 | 12:18 AM
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Originally Posted by wreckya
Sometimes I hate building shocks and right now is one of those times. I was running standard vent but I'm use to running emulsion built shocks. Well the last standard vent went ok, not this time one has a little rebound other has none. And when I put them on a matching tool it's a pretty good difference. Took them apart several times now but still not right. Emulsion build is much easier I think.
Drill the side holes.
Put bladder in cap.
Fill and bleed shocks.
Put cap half on.
Push shaft in so far as you want rebound. Let oil escape out of side hole.
Screw cap all the way in.

Easy and consistent.
Check bladder from time to time by stretching a little. If running no limiters the rear shock nut hits the bladder.
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