I think the reason people are suggesting brushless is because he/she is asking for suggestions and ease of use seems to be a concern. We all know brushless is cleaner to maintain, easier to work on and flat out more reliable. Drivetrain suggestions are much different than saying "hmm, you want a monster truck to get over grass, this heli will get you over grass really well". Whys everybody so angry on these forum threads....ideas and suggestions are the name of the game I thought?

Anyways...the reality is your list is solid thru and thru. Buy any one of them and you'll find parts and be happy happy happy!

Good luck!

If you have half a clue and a decent engine, nitro is not high maintenance at all.

At all.

If it were I wouldn't mess with it.

Furthermore, brushless is WAY more maintenance than people make out, because the instant power of it is much harder on drivetrains. It is also much more gearing-critical etc.., which is why you so often see people frying ESC's, lipos, and motors.

Sorry - but if you have no clue about nitro, don't make recommendations regarding it.

Here's a clip of my LST2 with a Losi 454 (stock XXL engine) from early last year - basically the first run after the long winter. I don't think I touched a needle at all after it'd been sitting for three months.. Just started it and ran it.

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Easy there, its well known on this site that you partial to nitro and will got to great lengths to prove it. With that said a few people were merely suggesting some other options is all. I started out my RC addiction with nothing but nitro vehicles and ran them from 2001-2005. As brushless and Lipo technology hit the scene I gave them a shot and never looked back. Less mess, less hassle, less problems period! Almost everyone I know that is a diehard nitro guy ends up driving someone else's electric spare vehicle because their nitro is out of commission within 30 minutes of showing up. You are fully entitled to your opinion but you really don't have to be so aggressive about.

So what if you know people who don't know how to tune a nitro engine?

I encourage ANYBODY to go to a big 8th scale race and watch nitro and then electric heats. End of story..

Electric is like an action movie on mute, it's soulless, it blows diffs, it's expensive, ESC's fry, motors burn up, lipos blow up and on and on and on.. Electric is for ADD newbs, basically.. Naive ones, who believe Traxxas speed claims..

I say all that with a grain of salt, knowing full well it's obnoxious. But that's exactly what flashlight fangirls sound like when getting all presumptuous about how great electric supposedly is.. I actually don't hate electric per se; I just hate the annoying tone of take-the-easy-way-out electric fans, the vast majority of whom are basing their preference either on zero experience with nitro, or on their cluelessness in regard to it. Can't tune an engine? That's your problem, not the engine's..

But you never see me going into some thread where a guy says he's looking for an electric RC and I say all those things to him by way of telling him to get a nitro.. It's presumptuous and annoying.

Whatever makes you happy but you quite regularly are rude in your post. I'm just saying there are easier ways to make your point without acting that way.

i agree with cody, herrsavage is quite rude the way he comes across more so in the monster truck threads than the "nitro off-road " section.

im a diehard Nitro racer, but eletric has been a breeze, look after your gear, use foam under esc's, dont over charge or over discharge lipos etc and you shouldnt have an issue.

Wow...didn't mean to get you so fired up there guy. Umm ok, my buddy and I run nitro vs brushless and here's what I've seen:

Five minutes in, he's switching fuel and I'm still going.
20 minutes in and he has black muck all over his body and the interior, mines still clean.
40 minutes in and his starter doesn't work anymore and were at a quarry 1/2 mile from the car and he has to go get parts.
1 hour in and he says "dude I am so sick of this nitro...yours is so much more powerful"

So I guess you're right. Nitro is cleaner, when tuned right definitely faster, way easier to maintain and definitely less punchier so that it doesn't break the drivetrain based on my experience...sorry dude I must of forgot.

Looks like I need to go get some nitro motors to keep up, or maybe a brushed motor and some nimhs?

L. O. L.

If I come off as "rude" it's because I'm dealing with ignorant nonsense like this. His friend has no clue - either ...- so nitro must suck..

Sorry, but the electric side of the hobby has a level of imbecility at play which is hard to take - most basically basing their hatred of nitro on the fact that they were too dumb to figure it out and still have no clue about it whatsoever. How often do you see these same guys getting upset when their truck breaks from running into a curb, an ESC fries, or whatever? A lot.. The Traxxasification of RC has seriously lowered the bar...

Who was it that brought up flashlights in this thread about nitro MT's anyway?...

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Whoa dude, just sharing my personal experience with my first MTs. I love my Nitros! I love the smell, the sound and the feel of running my savages. It has however taken my a LONG time to get to the point where I can take them out and not run into 100 issues directly related to the nitro engine. I wouldn't trade my savvies for anything, but I would have much rather had some fun with it first, rather than being frustrated to the point where I almost quit the hobby.

You sir are a one of the quintessential elitists that I see on every forum related to one form of hobby or another. Always looking for an argument without due reason.

Reconsider the "without due reason" bit, both generally and specifically as it relates to this thread.

i do believe the recurring theme in this thread is that nitro and brushless both have their "good sides", enough said.

the thing is....this hobby is for fun, why all the anger and ferocity? truth is, i was just messing around until called ignorant. at this juncture i do believe its time we check ourselves. this thread was originally posted for a guy looking for some advice. advice is neither labeled as true or definitive and naturally comes with a level of opinion and of course a certain amount of bias. when someone comes on a thread like this and gets beligerent over a small portion of a statement(have you considered brushless?) it truly shows the self righteousness of that individual valuing their own opinion as fact rather than even hypotesis or theory....

sorry guy, but my buddy is a turbonetic engineer and can make a nitro sing...again you know nothing of my situation or scenario, but yet you lean in the direction of insult. why? this is a hobby, its supposed to be FUN.

But why is that the "recurring theme" at all in this thread?

Of course this hobby is about fun. And I get sick of the false information being spread by electric people with zero clue about nitro(and sorry, your friend being an engineer means nothing..), talking all of this utter nonsense blabber about it, when that's exactly what I find fun in the hobby. But that's secondary anyway. Any talk of electric or how "hard" nitro supposedly is (to the clueless) has NO place in this thread at all..

Last year I shredded the tip of my thumb off messing with the ESC on my MT4 G3. So where was the stupidity there - the ESC, or me? I know the answer to that, and how stupid it would be to confound it.

Let me just say maybe some of you missed it in my post. I already have a electric 2wd slash vxl and I love the just plug and go! But I've had nitro in the past and love them as well and I'm wanting another that way I have both. But I have now moved my thoughts away from the MT as I've decided to go with the losi 8ight T 2.0 truggy. It has been continued and they have dropped in price. Since my yard is just grass and terraces for jumping I think the truggy will serve me just as well if not better than a MT. Also my Lhs that's only 15 mins from me has the off-road track that I can go run on as well if I decide to go to the track sometime not to race but just play around. Thanks for the replys but I'm going truggy and can't wait to get it!