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Old 08-16-2013 | 09:21 PM
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FTW Dimondback.
Almost forgot about FTW Diamondback, went ahead and ordered it! Thank you! 👍
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Old 08-16-2013 | 09:48 PM
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Originally Posted by JRapid
Yeah the Hi-flo fits great. You don't want to be seen with a tlr body anyway
I take a tekno a sticker a put it over the tlr sticker on the grill .
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Old 08-16-2013 | 09:52 PM
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Originally Posted by GrimmReaper
DO NOT buy anything hi flow or flotek. These bodies where designed for 2 wheel drive short courses that need the downforce on the front to keep it from flipping over backwards at high speed.

Those bodies will only make the nose down attitude worse in mid air.

Call Tekno... They will confirm this.

Find something that has a flat hood and not too angled.

I just bought a flotek, and it really makes the nose drop in mid air. I swap it out for my SC10 body and it's night and day.
I run the jc and tlr and haven't had a single probably with ether.

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Old 08-16-2013 | 10:22 PM
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Originally Posted by Vwchris
has anyone got the nose diving issue sorted out with out the battery tray mod? I did the mod on mine and I think I have lost steering. looking to ger steering back with out the nose diving. thanks
I was fighting the rear end bucking on jumps for the last few weeks. I solved it the last time I raced by going up in shock oil and springs until it went away. (front and rear) But, then I didn't like the way it drove on the rest of the track any more. I must admit that my poor 410 has been neglected as far as maintenance goes. ts been a looooong time since I gave it any attention. I finally did a complete tear down rebuild on the truck and found 3 wheel bearings that were almost completely seized, the front diff almost bone dry and the rear arms with so much dirt build up on the hinge pins that with the shocks off and the wheels still on, the arms wouldn't move under their own weight even with the weight of the wheel/tires. The arms actually squeaked when I moved them by hand. LOL. All of that and I still qualified 3 out of about 15 trucks. Ha!

Anyway. I think my problems were not related to the setup but were really a result of the damn car going to hell from not maintaining it. I hadnt touched it except to race it since May. Race it 3 weeks a month and then just put it in the garage until the next race. 4x4 is my also ran class. I really spend most of my rc energy and time working on my eb48.

Anyway, I havent gotten it on the track since I rebuilt it. Car is perfect now. Looks and feels just like a brand new car. I went back to my old setup since I suspect the disrepair was the culprit for my problems. I'll confirm sunday if I can figure out how to escape to the track this week. Anyone having issues I would recommend going thru the car and seeing if there is something causing the issue.
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Old 08-16-2013 | 11:30 PM
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Originally Posted by jhautz
I was fighting the rear end bucking on jumps for the last few weeks. I solved it the last time I raced by going up in shock oil and springs until it went away. (front and rear) But, then I didn't like the way it drove on the rest of the track any more. I must admit that my poor 410 has been neglected as far as maintenance goes. ts been a looooong time since I gave it any attention. I finally did a complete tear down rebuild on the truck and found 3 wheel bearings that were almost completely seized, the front diff almost bone dry and the rear arms with so much dirt build up on the hinge pins that with the shocks off and the wheels still on, the arms wouldn't move under their own weight even with the weight of the wheel/tires. The arms actually squeaked when I moved them by hand. LOL. All of that and I still qualified 3 out of about 15 trucks. Ha!

Anyway. I think my problems were not related to the setup but were really a result of the damn car going to hell from not maintaining it. I hadnt touched it except to race it since May. Race it 3 weeks a month and then just put it in the garage until the next race. 4x4 is my also ran class. I really spend most of my rc energy and time working on my eb48.

Anyway, I havent gotten it on the track since I rebuilt it. Car is perfect now. Looks and feels just like a brand new car. I went back to my old setup since I suspect the disrepair was the culprit for my problems. I'll confirm sunday if I can figure out how to escape to the track this week. Anyone having issues I would recommend going thru the car and seeing if there is something causing the issue.
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Old 08-17-2013 | 12:40 AM
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Originally Posted by DBL15
Set up looks fine maybe try less anti in the rear but only go to middle section.

Are your tyres the gun tyres for that track?

I see your all ready at 5k in the rear have you tried 3k rear as I run that and my truck is planted at the rear.

Or you could drive it different as well where you brake then turn and power out of the corner not power into the corner?

There is heaps of ways to drive these trucks around the track to get the same if not better lap times.

They do turn though your right and feel very planted
Antimullet also suggested taking out a little anti squat. I'll give that a try too. I normally run Proline Suburbs or Ions in MC clay compound on my previous truck but they are mounted on 17mm DE SC wheels. All I had in 12mm hex were the JConcepts Pressure Points. But they are in gold clay compound.
Going with 3k on the rear diff should give me more traction cornering right?
I have learned to alter my driving with this truck. I guess I'm just used to being really aggressive like with my previous truck. Thanks for the help.

Originally Posted by karl wasabi
Your setup is very similar to mine, and I run at WCRC too. The only difference is I'm running my shocks in the #3 spot on both front and rear towers. I'm also running the rear camber link in the #3 position.

I'm also having a bit of trouble with the sweeper at the end of the straight, but my issue is traction rolling. I have to brake, turn in, and then accelerate.
Wow this truck really reacts to setup changes if your setup is similar to mine with the exception of shock location and rear camber. You are having almost the exact opposite issue than I am with traction rolling instead of sliding out. Good to hear from someone who runs the Tekno @ WCRC. I usually make it to the track on Thursday nights for practice. When do you go there? Would to be cool to meet up and talk setup. I drive the gold and dark grey truck.
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Old 08-17-2013 | 12:40 AM
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Originally Posted by DoogieLee
Its hard to go from our conversion trucks to the Tekno's... but im getting better with it. First thing I did was turn my dual rate down and then some negative expo. It calms it down some, i'm running SRamos setup on high bite indoor tracks and so far its good...
Just not as predictable as the SC10.2 4x4
It will definitely turn in a lot better though, but sweepers where our trucks were so stable and predictable, this one gets kind of sketchy.
It just takes time man, trust me... im in the same boat and im going on 3 months with my Tekno now.
DoogieLee what's up! Nice to find another RC8.2e conversion guy giving this truck a whirl. I was a hold out on my conversion but realized that I was getting beat on the infield. Guys were killing me in the turns. Seemed everyone could turn tighter and get inside of me. You are right in that our old trucks were very predictable. I knew exactly what that truck would do in the sweeper, turns, jumps. The SCT410 turns on a dime and is nimble compared. I can feel that potential. I guess it'll take time behind the wheel to learn truck. And a little tuning of course. Thanks for your input.
BTW loving the RC8.2e as a buggy again (with the Tekno V4 kit).
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Old 08-17-2013 | 05:40 AM
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Anyone running the Ferroni pistons? if yes what brand and weight shock oils and springs are you running with them. Also when installing do the large holes go up or down.

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Old 08-17-2013 | 06:03 AM
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Originally Posted by jamr1130
3rd time out at the track last night with this truck. Could use some help. I run on an indoor clay track. WCRC for you SoCal locals. My issue is turck feels real twitchy and loose at the rear coming around corners. With my previous truck (RC8.2e SC conversion) I could run down the straight and release the throttle a few feet before entering the turn and let her coast in and throttle coming out of the sweeper. Try this with the Tekno and she spins out at the turns apex before I can throttle out. I’m using the same esc/motor as my old truck with no drag brake set. I’ve been compensating by releasing throttle earlier and feathering it around the sweeper. Then around turns it’ll fish tail if I throttle out before I’ve actually rounded the corner. It really feels like my B4.1 with the slipper too tight spinning out in the turns with too much throttle. I will say that with a lot of compensation on my part I was able to get within a second of my fastest lap times in my old truck. This thing turns great. I was able to get under some buddies in the turns hugging the pipes. Whereas I would previously always turn wide no matter how hard I tried. On a side note this thing jumps great. I did not experience any nose diving except when I blipped the brakes too much. . I can see the potential this truck has I just hate not being able to be aggressive by pussy footing it around the track. Posting my setup which is for the most part the Barry Baker setup as I know he ran at West Coast and OCRC.
Let me know what you think. Help.

Try taking out a few millimeters of droop , I found I was getting too much weight transfer to the front under braking and that was causing the rear end to come around ...
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Old 08-17-2013 | 06:22 AM
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Originally Posted by cottonme173
Does Tekno recommend a body? I have yet to call them, but if anyone knows or if Tekno gets on that would be great info.
Yes, tekno drivers like the losi scte body and JC Ford 250, which is not marketed as Hiflow but does have cut outs and a nice back spoiler for downforce.
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Old 08-17-2013 | 08:52 AM
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If I want to get the rear to rotate just a little bit to eliminate just a smidge of traction roll, what would be a good change to try with the rear camber link?
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Old 08-17-2013 | 09:58 AM
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Originally Posted by Docitup
Almost forgot about FTW Diamondback, went ahead and ordered it! Thank you! 👍

It's a great body. I like it more than the jconcepts hi-flow i was using before. It's my go-to body now.
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Old 08-17-2013 | 10:46 AM
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Originally Posted by King DORK
If I want to get the rear to rotate just a little bit to eliminate just a smidge of traction roll, what would be a good change to try with the rear camber link?
Lower the link on the rear shock tower or shorten the link. Lowering the link will allow the chassis to roll less and will increase camber gain.
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Old 08-17-2013 | 12:25 PM
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Originally Posted by Slotmachine
Lower the link on the rear shock tower or shorten the link. Lowering the link will allow the chassis to roll less and will increase camber gain.
Thank you. Was hoping for a short, easy to understand answer and you delivered one .
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Old 08-17-2013 | 01:42 PM
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strange, when I wanted to free up the rear end to eliminate traction roll I would raise the link on the tower?
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