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Old 05-21-2013 | 02:59 AM
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Originally Posted by ray_munday
I race for JConcepts / AE in Australia and have done a lot of testing on outdoors tracks.

The compound (and tread) are heavily dependant on the temperature and the abrasiveness of the surface. As the temp increases and the track becomes more abrasive, the firmer compounds grip better.

General rule I have found:
- track is damp -> green
- track is dry but cool (<20C) -> blue
- track is dry and warm (>20C) -> orange

I usually use the same compound front and rear.

V2 bar codes are only used if there is minimal dust and high traction. V1 bar codes work well if there is a little more dust. If the base is hard but the surface is dusty, then 3Ds are the best.

Bar Codes are good on the front, but if its very dusty they can lose a bit of side bight. I have made some 3D fronts and they are really good in this condition.

I run a help thread in the Aussie forums and have put together a quick reference chart for JConcepts tyres - check post #2 of this thread:

hope this helps!

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Ray thank you very much for tips, your thoughts were very helpful. Now I know what to order from Jconcepts.

The base on my track is very hard but the surface is a little dusty. The track has a new layout and we are waiting for groove to form up. It's very hot in the summer around 25-30 celsius, so we need to pour water over track frequently.

Last week I have received a few packs of the new Jconcepts hybrids. I was wondering how will they work on dusty surface and what tires should I put on the front to combine with them? My first thought was double dees. What do You think? Have someone ever tested them?
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Old 05-21-2013 | 06:07 PM
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Originally Posted by K.Chmura
Ray thank you very much for tips, your thoughts were very helpful. Now I know what to order from Jconcepts.

The base on my track is very hard but the surface is a little dusty. The track has a new layout and we are waiting for groove to form up. It's very hot in the summer around 25-30 celsius, so we need to pour water over track frequently.

Last week I have received a few packs of the new Jconcepts hybrids. I was wondering how will they work on dusty surface and what tires should I put on the front to combine with them? My first thought was double dees. What do You think? Have someone ever tested them?
Ive tested the hyrbids a lot as well. They are good when the base is hard but not too abrasive, and the dust is low. They give more forward traction than Double Dees (due to their flatter carcass and sharper pin) but if the dust is deep they can lose side bight as the pin doesnt wrap around the sidewall. They are good on tracks with hairpins as they rotate well then give good forward traction. Unfortunately they arent available in orange but if the track is being watered it may not be as big an issue. I have run them with both DD and Bar Codes on the front of teh 4wd - I usually try to match the compounds though (ie if you are using blue rear, use blue bar code front).

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Old 05-22-2013 | 10:47 AM
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If anyone is looking for one mine is for sale

http://www.rctech.net/forum/r-c-item...d-b44-2-a.html
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Old 05-22-2013 | 04:53 PM
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Finally available to order.
http://www.jconcepts.net/store/index...roducts_id=683
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Old 05-23-2013 | 05:53 AM
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guys can you get metal gears to use with the ball diff? I havn't had any problems with the stock ones yet but I have heard of other people having problems.
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Old 05-23-2013 | 06:03 AM
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guys can you get metal gears to use with the ball diff? I havn't had any problems with the stock ones yet but I have heard of other people having problems.
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Im not sure how good they will work having carbide balls in a alloy gear. As long as your slipper is set right and your brakes are set correctly you should be fine with stock gears.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/ALUMINUM-DIF...item2a2b59cbfc
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Old 05-24-2013 | 08:26 AM
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So far I haven't had a problem with the stock gears, and I'd be interested to hear more about metal gears Just wondering if you would be using the Robinson Racing idler gear as well?
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Old 05-24-2013 | 08:51 AM
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I'd like to see a gear diff option for the car. I guess there's a kit out there to use Durango stuff, but it's pricey. An AE option would be nice.
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Hi guys,

I have B44 and have a question regarding big bore shocks. Are these direct fit for B44 or will require some modifications?
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Originally Posted by elex300
Will it fit B44?
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Old 05-24-2013 | 09:15 AM
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Will it fit B44?
Originally Posted by gosha
Hi guys,

I have B44 and have a question regarding big bore shocks. Are these direct fit for B44 or will require some modifications?
The Jconcepts center bulkhead cover will not fit the B44. The B44.2 has the vts slipper which elongates this area. The stock 44.2 cover is plastic, but it is aluminum on all previous versions of the B44, so I don't see why you would need it. The Big bores would fit the B44, but might require shaving of the shock towers for clearance. You can also add spacers to have the shocks sit further away from the towers. Otherwise they will be a direct fit
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Old 05-24-2013 | 09:31 AM
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Great.Thanks for the explanation...
Are front and rear B44.2 shock towers direct fit for B44?
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Great.Thanks for the explanation...
Are front and rear B44.2 shock towers direct fit for B44?
Yes, they are a direct fit onto the B44. The difference is that they are thicker, have 3 mounting holes opposed to 2, and add clearance for the big bore shocks. They have the same screw locations on all versions of the chassis
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Old 05-24-2013 | 06:46 PM
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two quick qustions.

1#. First time taking my b44.2 to the track.. indoor clay... seems like if i dont stay at least 50% throttle the car wants to nose dive off jumps.. ESC is a rs pro with all default settings... i was thinking adding some push control to it?

2# does any one make a stronger front bulkhead?
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Originally Posted by elex300
Im not sure how good they will work having carbide balls in a alloy gear. As long as your slipper is set right and your brakes are set correctly you should be fine with stock gears.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/ALUMINUM-DIF...item2a2b59cbfc
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I went to the store for the above listing & found aluminum out drives for a tc4. Are the tc4 out drives the same as the b44? Reduced rotating mass at the expense of longevity may or may not be a good trade off, but it sure is an interesting concept.
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