Novarossi engines thread
#4591
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I am having tuning challenges with my .21 Nova Keep-On; in fact I've killed the original piston liner after 1 race and just ran in the replacement.
Engine behaves very strangly : it pulls well from low to mid but doesn't rev out after that. It's as though the engine is experiencing fuel starvation. Tried richening it but still the same, until it was obviously too rich. Engine runs very hot 130 degrees C.
There is very fine pitting on the piston surface and top plate. I think it's pre-detonation. But I am using stock shimming ( 2 silver and 1 copper - measured head clearance 0.6mm) and stock No.8 Nova plug. 25% nitro and 9% oil.
It's not the fuel tank nor the fuel line as my other engines were working fine.
Needle setting : HSN flush, LSN 0.3mm in, MSN flush
Any suggestions ?
Cheers
Engine behaves very strangly : it pulls well from low to mid but doesn't rev out after that. It's as though the engine is experiencing fuel starvation. Tried richening it but still the same, until it was obviously too rich. Engine runs very hot 130 degrees C.
There is very fine pitting on the piston surface and top plate. I think it's pre-detonation. But I am using stock shimming ( 2 silver and 1 copper - measured head clearance 0.6mm) and stock No.8 Nova plug. 25% nitro and 9% oil.
It's not the fuel tank nor the fuel line as my other engines were working fine.
Needle setting : HSN flush, LSN 0.3mm in, MSN flush
Any suggestions ?
Cheers
#4593
Tech Regular
Joined: May 2011
Posts: 423
I am having tuning challenges with my .21 Nova Keep-On; in fact I've killed the original piston liner after 1 race and just ran in the replacement.
Engine behaves very strangly : it pulls well from low to mid but doesn't rev out after that. It's as though the engine is experiencing fuel starvation. Tried richening it but still the same, until it was obviously too rich. Engine runs very hot 130 degrees C.
There is very fine pitting on the piston surface and top plate. I think it's pre-detonation. But I am using stock shimming ( 2 silver and 1 copper - measured head clearance 0.6mm) and stock No.8 Nova plug. 25% nitro and 9% oil.
It's not the fuel tank nor the fuel line as my other engines were working fine.
Needle setting : HSN flush, LSN 0.3mm in, MSN flush
Any suggestions ?
Cheers
Engine behaves very strangly : it pulls well from low to mid but doesn't rev out after that. It's as though the engine is experiencing fuel starvation. Tried richening it but still the same, until it was obviously too rich. Engine runs very hot 130 degrees C.
There is very fine pitting on the piston surface and top plate. I think it's pre-detonation. But I am using stock shimming ( 2 silver and 1 copper - measured head clearance 0.6mm) and stock No.8 Nova plug. 25% nitro and 9% oil.
It's not the fuel tank nor the fuel line as my other engines were working fine.
Needle setting : HSN flush, LSN 0.3mm in, MSN flush
Any suggestions ?
Cheers
Like it was suggested, also try adding a .1mm shim. With some fuels, it is necessary add the shim. Also, you didn't specify which #8 plug you are using but we recommend the C8TGH plug.
#4594
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LSN is normally flush to slightly out (1/4 turn) so I think you are too lean on the bottom.
Like it was suggested, also try adding a .1mm shim. With some fuels, it is necessary add the shim. Also, you didn't specify which #8 plug you are using but we recommend the C8TGH plug.
Like it was suggested, also try adding a .1mm shim. With some fuels, it is necessary add the shim. Also, you didn't specify which #8 plug you are using but we recommend the C8TGH plug.
I use the C8TGH plug. VP Powermaster 25% fuel. Will try shimming up.
Cheers.
#4595
Tech Initiate
Joined: Jun 2012
Posts: 20
I bought a keep on .21, and I think this broken (5 liters). The Engine pushes a lot in low and medium rpm, but high rpm still not fine. To run fine at high rpm, the temperature rises to 130 ° C. Is this normal? Still need more breakin?
#4596
Tech Apprentice
Joined: Jul 2009
Posts: 53
-The right engine temperature will vary widely, depending on the air temperature, fuel used, altitude, driving style, air flow conditions of the body and several other factors.
There is absolutely no way anyone can tell you an ideal engine temperature.
It is generally accepted that a proper range of temperatures is between 95 and 140 degrees Celsius (or about 203 and 284 degrees Fahrenheit).
The biggest variable of all in measuring engine temperature is where and how the measurement is taken.
Your infrared thermometer may be calibrated completely different than ours, or you may be pointing at a different spot on the head.
We usually check the temperature pointing the infrared on the glow plug.
High temperature with the new low profile coolingheads?
The results of test show that forced convection heat transfer rates can be enhanced by up to X using low profiles cooling design. With the low profile heat sink, the measured temperatures on its surface can reach 15 to 20 °C / 59 to 68° F higher than normal because the temperature detection is done close to the glow plugs.
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#4599
Tech Adept
Joined: Jan 2013
Posts: 79
Thank you. Well im new to rc and when I explained this to the hobby shop they sold me what I thought was a new motor but when my friend had a look as he was going to fit it all up to the car he told me it was used and take it back. Long story short they pretty much refused to replace it with a new one nor refund me so I put in a complaint to consumer affairs I attached pictures with descriptions
#4600
Thank you. Well im new to rc and when I explained this to the hobby shop they sold me what I thought was a new motor but when my friend had a look as he was going to fit it all up to the car he told me it was used and take it back. Long story short they pretty much refused to replace it with a new one nor refund me so I put in a complaint to consumer affairs I attached pictures with descriptions
#4604
Joined: Aug 2002
Posts: 6,296
From: Oxnard, CA
THink clearly here, common sence. Why would Novarossi, with a reputation to uphold, ship a used engine. If somebody sold you a used engine it was the HOBBY SHOP where you bought it. They should be ones that will be getting the consumer report, NOT Novarossi.
Like you said, the HOBBY SHOP sold you the motor, not Nova. Plus you explained to them that you were new to the hobby and probably tried to pull a fast one on you. How do you know that it wasnt the HOBBY SHOP that used it before they sold it too you?
Like you said, the HOBBY SHOP sold you the motor, not Nova. Plus you explained to them that you were new to the hobby and probably tried to pull a fast one on you. How do you know that it wasnt the HOBBY SHOP that used it before they sold it too you?
#4605
THink clearly here, common sence. Why would Novarossi, with a reputation to uphold, ship a used engine. If somebody sold you a used engine it was the HOBBY SHOP where you bought it. They should be ones that will be getting the consumer report, NOT Novarossi.
Like you said, the HOBBY SHOP sold you the motor, not Nova. Plus you explained to them that you were new to the hobby and probably tried to pull a fast one on you. How do you know that it wasnt the HOBBY SHOP that used it before they sold it too you?
Like you said, the HOBBY SHOP sold you the motor, not Nova. Plus you explained to them that you were new to the hobby and probably tried to pull a fast one on you. How do you know that it wasnt the HOBBY SHOP that used it before they sold it too you?
I agree, Novarossi has done nothing wrong. Is this a pre-run engine?



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