RC10B4.1 FT/WC
01-22-2013 | 11:04 PM
I was going to as well then drove a friends with this one and it was plenty fast. I even turn down the expo when the track gets loose to prevent pushing.
I was surprised but then again the orion BEC is at 6v.
I have the 1258 in my 1/8 scale xray e-buggy and love it as well. but have to run a cap with those on my 1/8 scale, never tried on 1/10 scale
cant go wrong either way. just I know no brown outs with the 1251. both are 4096 digital so the resolution is great
I was surprised but then again the orion BEC is at 6v.
I have the 1258 in my 1/8 scale xray e-buggy and love it as well. but have to run a cap with those on my 1/8 scale, never tried on 1/10 scale
cant go wrong either way. just I know no brown outs with the 1251. both are 4096 digital so the resolution is great
That extra few dollars isn't too much to pay and I was looking into that same servo you have, but decided otherwise.The 1257 was originally in my 1/8th, but I wanted something more torque, so I got the 1267 for my 1/8th and put the 1257 into my 1/10th.
You might have the spek RX that isn't drawing that much power possibly.
01-22-2013 | 11:11 PM
I'm running a 2wd B4.1 w/13.5t motor, no boost, timing +10.
Up coming race on red clay, very technical track. Relatively smooth, but, definitely a few rough spots. This track always has some dust (corn silk) on the surface.
So what tires would you guys recommend? Temps should be ~50*F and moderate humidity. Rain is not expected, but, who knows, right?
Thanks in advance for any help.
Up coming race on red clay, very technical track. Relatively smooth, but, definitely a few rough spots. This track always has some dust (corn silk) on the surface.
So what tires would you guys recommend? Temps should be ~50*F and moderate humidity. Rain is not expected, but, who knows, right?
Thanks in advance for any help.
Last layout was REALLY hard (think concrete) red clay & rather dusty (even just a few minutes after watering the track) & starting to break up in spots. Green dd's (or similar) were the go to tire. Current layout is much softer & little to no dust & usually damp. Barcodes in clay or ss (or similar) are the go to tire now.
This for an indoor track, & you mentioned no rain, so I'm guessing yours is out door. For out door with more dust & loam, goosebumps --> 3d's --> dd's as the track gets drier picks up a groove. I've run all 3 on the same day as track conditions changed during a summer day.
01-22-2013 | 11:18 PM
Hideeho
The problem with savox brown outs is not with the servo or the ESC's bec, it's with the receiver. Spektrum dsm receivers don't pass enough power to the servo which leads to brown outs. Spektrum dsm2 receivers (models 3100 & 3520) don't have a brown out issue. I run a 3100 spektrum dsm2 receiver & a savox 1258 servo & no capacitor with no brown outs ever.
This is assuming an ESC that puts out 5a-6a to begin with. Most turnigy, low end speed passion & other ESC's only put out 3a for the bec. That can lead to brown outs with any servo.
P.s. savox servos are noisy. Once your moving you won't hear it, but while the buggy is sitting on the bench they are rather noisy.
The problem with savox brown outs is not with the servo or the ESC's bec, it's with the receiver. Spektrum dsm receivers don't pass enough power to the servo which leads to brown outs. Spektrum dsm2 receivers (models 3100 & 3520) don't have a brown out issue. I run a 3100 spektrum dsm2 receiver & a savox 1258 servo & no capacitor with no brown outs ever.
This is assuming an ESC that puts out 5a-6a to begin with. Most turnigy, low end speed passion & other ESC's only put out 3a for the bec. That can lead to brown outs with any servo.
P.s. savox servos are noisy. Once your moving you won't hear it, but while the buggy is sitting on the bench they are rather noisy.
01-23-2013 | 05:10 AM
01-23-2013 | 06:59 AM
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If I could do that I definitely would. This will be my first time at this track, and I just don't know who may be there. I'm fairly new to racing, just been bashing for a couple of years..... and I know my bashing tires. 
Just no knowledge of red clay outdoor racing tires.
Just no knowledge of red clay outdoor racing tires.
Second best method for me is to just to show up with some wheels and buy the most popular tires and inserts once you get there. A track will usually stock what is popular. You'd be surprised what tires work at some tracks, and everyone i have talked to in the past was more than happy to help. I have also found some tracks have local tips and tricks that everyone does to gain an edge. Homemade tire sauce made in some guy's basement, etc.
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01-23-2013 | 10:31 AM
If I could do that I definitely would. This will be my first time at this track, and I just don't know who may be there. I'm fairly new to racing, just been bashing for a couple of years..... and I know my bashing tires.
Just no knowledge of red clay outdoor racing tires.
Just no knowledge of red clay outdoor racing tires.
01-23-2013 | 02:54 PM
I was going to as well then drove a friends with this one and it was plenty fast. I even turn down the expo when the track gets loose to prevent pushing.
I was surprised but then again the orion BEC is at 6v.
I have the 1258 in my 1/8 scale xray e-buggy and love it as well. but have to run a cap with those on my 1/8 scale, never tried on 1/10 scale
cant go wrong either way. just I know no brown outs with the 1251. both are 4096 digital so the resolution is great
I was surprised but then again the orion BEC is at 6v.
I have the 1258 in my 1/8 scale xray e-buggy and love it as well. but have to run a cap with those on my 1/8 scale, never tried on 1/10 scale
cant go wrong either way. just I know no brown outs with the 1251. both are 4096 digital so the resolution is great
Well personally I would rather get more which I can turn down... With less you can turn them up That extra few dollars isn't too much to pay and I was looking into that same servo you have, but decided otherwise.
The 1257 was originally in my 1/8th, but I wanted something more torque, so I got the 1267 for my 1/8th and put the 1257 into my 1/10th.
You might have the spek RX that isn't drawing that much power possibly.
That extra few dollars isn't too much to pay and I was looking into that same servo you have, but decided otherwise.The 1257 was originally in my 1/8th, but I wanted something more torque, so I got the 1267 for my 1/8th and put the 1257 into my 1/10th.
You might have the spek RX that isn't drawing that much power possibly.
Hideeho
The problem with savox brown outs is not with the servo or the ESC's bec, it's with the receiver. Spektrum dsm receivers don't pass enough power to the servo which leads to brown outs. Spektrum dsm2 receivers (models 3100 & 3520) don't have a brown out issue. I run a 3100 spektrum dsm2 receiver & a savox 1258 servo & no capacitor with no brown outs ever.
This is assuming an ESC that puts out 5a-6a to begin with. Most turnigy, low end speed passion & other ESC's only put out 3a for the bec. That can lead to brown outs with any servo.
P.s. savox servos are noisy. Once your moving you won't hear it, but while the buggy is sitting on the bench they are rather noisy.
The problem with savox brown outs is not with the servo or the ESC's bec, it's with the receiver. Spektrum dsm receivers don't pass enough power to the servo which leads to brown outs. Spektrum dsm2 receivers (models 3100 & 3520) don't have a brown out issue. I run a 3100 spektrum dsm2 receiver & a savox 1258 servo & no capacitor with no brown outs ever.
This is assuming an ESC that puts out 5a-6a to begin with. Most turnigy, low end speed passion & other ESC's only put out 3a for the bec. That can lead to brown outs with any servo.
P.s. savox servos are noisy. Once your moving you won't hear it, but while the buggy is sitting on the bench they are rather noisy.
I kno, i kno...i dont have a B4.1 and thats what this thread is about but the ADX-10 is similar in stock weight and runs the same shocks and so on, so i use some of the info to get my baseline for this and appreciate the help since there arent alot(if any, lol) of people running/racing the ADX-10 so this is my resource thread and once again thank you guys for all your help
01-23-2013 | 03:21 PM
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I disagree with Walfet. It's the combo of a high power servo, an ESC that can't provide it and Spektrum's minimum voltage requirements.
The rx doesn't provide any power to anything, that's the ESC's job. It simply uses it, like the servo. The +&- pins in most rx's are bridged. Think of it as an internal y-connector.
When power demand is higher than the ESC can provide, voltage drops. It's this drop that causes the brownout (the rx "reboots"). I use a 1258 with a BH120 and an SR300. I use a cap because of the power requirements of the Savox servo. I had 3 brownouts before the cap, none after. It's not the end-all, be-all, but it works for me.
The rx doesn't provide any power to anything, that's the ESC's job. It simply uses it, like the servo. The +&- pins in most rx's are bridged. Think of it as an internal y-connector.
When power demand is higher than the ESC can provide, voltage drops. It's this drop that causes the brownout (the rx "reboots"). I use a 1258 with a BH120 and an SR300. I use a cap because of the power requirements of the Savox servo. I had 3 brownouts before the cap, none after. It's not the end-all, be-all, but it works for me.
01-23-2013 | 03:26 PM
I disagree with Walfet. It's the combo of a high power servo, an ESC that can't provide it and Spektrum's minimum voltage requirements.
The rx doesn't provide any power to anything, that's the ESC's job. It simply uses it, like the servo. The +&- pins in most rx's are bridged. Think of it as an internal y-connector.
When power demand is higher than the ESC can provide, voltage drops. It's this drop that causes the brownout (the rx "reboots"). I use a 1258 with a BH120 and an SR300. I use a cap because of the power requirements of the Savox servo. I had 3 brownouts before the cap, none after. It's not the end-all, be-all, but it works for me.
The rx doesn't provide any power to anything, that's the ESC's job. It simply uses it, like the servo. The +&- pins in most rx's are bridged. Think of it as an internal y-connector.
When power demand is higher than the ESC can provide, voltage drops. It's this drop that causes the brownout (the rx "reboots"). I use a 1258 with a BH120 and an SR300. I use a cap because of the power requirements of the Savox servo. I had 3 brownouts before the cap, none after. It's not the end-all, be-all, but it works for me.
01-23-2013 | 04:03 PM
Yeah, I don't have the time to spend hours at the track to make all the boosted settings perfect. I run maybe once a month and just show up, run a couple packs and start the day. In off road it doesn't matter as much..too many variables, on road...I can see people hunting for motors, rotors, esc's. I run lrp and don't need anything to adjust my speedo, it's not as adjustable as others with their minute steps in adjustments but all that does is confuse people.