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Parma makes their bodies in both a heavy weight and a light weight. The heavy weight ones are very thick.
As for a 10.5...well that all depends how good of a driver you are. 10.5 in a 1/12th is really fast so it may be a bit much. That track looks really tight and small so I would think a 17.5 would be ideal for that track...maybe a 13.5 but that could be pushing it.
As for a 10.5...well that all depends how good of a driver you are. 10.5 in a 1/12th is really fast so it may be a bit much. That track looks really tight and small so I would think a 17.5 would be ideal for that track...maybe a 13.5 but that could be pushing it.
Here is a vid of me driving a cougar sv a year ago (when I just began this class):
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=paUy93I-990
and here in 1/8:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u-mcoYRamyg
maybe it will help to estimate my level in driving
The thing is I already own 10.5 motors from 1/10 offroad racing (LRP X11) but if it's too much I'll go for something smaller.
For 10,5T I think the new Mohawk Body of black-art is the 'one to get'. I've tested this body many times back to back, and at the twisty track of Mach Heemstede, or the High Grip, flowing Sipotech or Schermbeck track's it's just fastest. It's also the body with the highest down force, of all in the list ;-)
Regards Robert
Regards Robert
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1/12th is just a bit over half the weight of a TC and with the foam tires have more grip so even with half the voltage it should turn the same if not faster lap times with a 17.5 than the TCs.
Arg 1/8th nitro...I'm still trying to figure mine out after more than a year! LOL
Arg 1/8th nitro...I'm still trying to figure mine out after more than a year! LOL
1/12th is just a bit over half the weight of a TC and with the foam tires have more grip so even with half the voltage it should turn the same if not faster lap times with a 17.5 than the TCs.
Arg 1/8th nitro...I'm still trying to figure mine out after more than a year! LOL
Arg 1/8th nitro...I'm still trying to figure mine out after more than a year! LOL
. The buggy you see in the 2nd vid is one of the first electric JQ (racing it since two years), the official electric JQ isn't out yet. In Belgium there is no more nitro championship in 1/8 buggy because electric has grown so fast. Good to know for the motor, to me the TC from the vid are a bit slow. I actually drove one. Is there anyway I could tame the 10.5 or it will be overkill?
@_Pulse: Ok, you're from the UK, so either 17.5 blinky, or 10.5 blinky. I generally think 10.5 blinky is ok for someone who is average at say Stock TC. That track is on the tighter side though, compared to what I'm used to. Now, you say that no one else at your track runs pan cars. Well then, I suggest you pick whatever is most likely to get them racing with you. Generally that is the slower of two options. But also think about what the typical ability level is at your track, and who you might like to race against, who is most likely to join you, etc.
@_Pulse: Ok, you're from the UK, so either 17.5 blinky, or 10.5 blinky. I generally think 10.5 blinky is ok for someone who is average at say Stock TC. That track is on the tighter side though, compared to what I'm used to. Now, you say that no one else at your track runs pan cars. Well then, I suggest you pick whatever is most likely to get them racing with you. Generally that is the slower of two options. But also think about what the typical ability level is at your track, and who you might like to race against, who is most likely to join you, etc.

My girlfriend will be driving with me, we have been racing together since we started rc. We just were in this club for once and people are very friendly. Most of them use 4wd TC in 17.5, but I'm not so sure it will be safe to race them with the 1/12 scale on such a small track or is it? The track is open all the week and I can get the keys so we already know we will have to drive alone quite often. It's a small facility with only two club evenings per week. This said I'm quite convincing so I've no doubt other guys will soon start to drive 1/12 too. The same happened when we started to convert our nitro cars to electric, we were alone too and some drivers soon started to do the same
Funny to see electric is now dominant, it only took two years.
Bruxelles is in Belgium, not UK 
My girlfriend will be driving with me, we have been racing together since we started rc. We just were in this club for once and people are very friendly. Most of them use 4wd TC in 17.5, but I'm not so sure it will be safe to race them with the 1/12 scale on such a small track or is it? The track is open all the week and I can get the keys so we already know we will have to drive alone quite often. It's a small facility with only two club evenings per week. This said I'm quite convincing so I've no doubt other guys will soon start to drive 1/12 too. The same happened when we started to convert our nitro cars to electric, we were alone too and some drivers soon started to do the same
Funny to see electric is now dominant, it only took two years.

My girlfriend will be driving with me, we have been racing together since we started rc. We just were in this club for once and people are very friendly. Most of them use 4wd TC in 17.5, but I'm not so sure it will be safe to race them with the 1/12 scale on such a small track or is it? The track is open all the week and I can get the keys so we already know we will have to drive alone quite often. It's a small facility with only two club evenings per week. This said I'm quite convincing so I've no doubt other guys will soon start to drive 1/12 too. The same happened when we started to convert our nitro cars to electric, we were alone too and some drivers soon started to do the same
Funny to see electric is now dominant, it only took two years.A small club runs twice a week!? My club races onroad once a month!
I've raced with TCs, it's not ideal, if the drivers are polite you can get away with it but wouldn't want to do it regularly, F1s are better because they are more careful being open wheeled cars.
Bruxelles is in Belgium, not UK 
My girlfriend will be driving with me, we have been racing together since we started rc. We just were in this club for once and people are very friendly. Most of them use 4wd TC in 17.5, but I'm not so sure it will be safe to race them with the 1/12 scale on such a small track or is it? The track is open all the week and I can get the keys so we already know we will have to drive alone quite often. It's a small facility with only two club evenings per week. This said I'm quite convincing so I've no doubt other guys will soon start to drive 1/12 too. The same happened when we started to convert our nitro cars to electric, we were alone too and some drivers soon started to do the same
Funny to see electric is now dominant, it only took two years.

My girlfriend will be driving with me, we have been racing together since we started rc. We just were in this club for once and people are very friendly. Most of them use 4wd TC in 17.5, but I'm not so sure it will be safe to race them with the 1/12 scale on such a small track or is it? The track is open all the week and I can get the keys so we already know we will have to drive alone quite often. It's a small facility with only two club evenings per week. This said I'm quite convincing so I've no doubt other guys will soon start to drive 1/12 too. The same happened when we started to convert our nitro cars to electric, we were alone too and some drivers soon started to do the same
Funny to see electric is now dominant, it only took two years.17.5 TC's will be in the way if you're running 13.5 or more motor in 12th scale
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Personally I really like 13.5 blinky for 1/12th...not too slow...not too fast. Last time I tried 10.5 was back in the 4 cell NiMh and boosted days and the car was scarey fast. 10.5 blinky might be fun...I wouldn't mind trying except for we run on asphalt and tire wear is fast enough already with 13.5.
When I said two times per week I meant there are two sessions open to everybody and members can come all the week. There is a small challenge for TC only in 17.5. One race per month.
It's quite cold inside so the grip isn't high, but we will need to be faster anyway so that everybody moves to 1/12
. Look at the track, it's meant for 1/12!
It's quite cold inside so the grip isn't high, but we will need to be faster anyway so that everybody moves to 1/12
. Look at the track, it's meant for 1/12!
This is what I ended with:
Setup 1:
12R5.2
HW 1S ESC
Futaba 9650
GM 10.5 motor
RX451 receiver
BA005 body
Setup 2:
CRC XTi
HW 1S ESC
Futaba 9650
LRP X11 10.5
RX451 receiver
body?
Lipos: 4x Orion 6400 90C, 1x SMC 6000, 1xCRC 5400
Tires: 6 complete sets of magenta front, pink rear and once they're worn out I'll see
Radios: M11X
Is everything ok? Just need to decide for the gearing now and I should be good to go. Everything was bought used but in like new condition. Took me 3 weeks to find everything but now I'm done
Setup 1:
12R5.2
HW 1S ESC
Futaba 9650
GM 10.5 motor
RX451 receiver
BA005 body
Setup 2:
CRC XTi
HW 1S ESC
Futaba 9650
LRP X11 10.5
RX451 receiver
body?
Lipos: 4x Orion 6400 90C, 1x SMC 6000, 1xCRC 5400
Tires: 6 complete sets of magenta front, pink rear and once they're worn out I'll see
Radios: M11X
Is everything ok? Just need to decide for the gearing now and I should be good to go. Everything was bought used but in like new condition. Took me 3 weeks to find everything but now I'm done
Last edited by Pulse_; 01-12-2013 at 09:20 AM.
There's something zen-like about assembling a new 1/12 kit, the parts are all new and shiny, no scars in the chassis or a speck of dust, I need to take a picture before it's gone 
It's strange, assembling offroad stuff or touring cars is the exact opposite. For instance, you might actually need the instructions to assemble one of those

It's strange, assembling offroad stuff or touring cars is the exact opposite. For instance, you might actually need the instructions to assemble one of those
This is what I ended with:
Setup 1:
12R5.2
HW 1S ESC
Futaba 9650
GM 10.5 motor
RX451 receiver
BA005 body
Setup 2:
CRC XTi
HW 1S ESC
Futaba 9650
LRP X11 10.5
RX451 receiver
body?
Lipos: 4x Orion 6400 90C, 1x SMC 6000, 1xCRC 5400
Tires: 6 complete sets of magenta front, pink rear and once they're worn out I'll see
Radios: M11X
Is everything ok? Just need to decide for the gearing now and I should be good to go. Everything was bought used but in like new condition. Took me 3 weeks to find everything but now I'm done
Setup 1:
12R5.2
HW 1S ESC
Futaba 9650
GM 10.5 motor
RX451 receiver
BA005 body
Setup 2:
CRC XTi
HW 1S ESC
Futaba 9650
LRP X11 10.5
RX451 receiver
body?
Lipos: 4x Orion 6400 90C, 1x SMC 6000, 1xCRC 5400
Tires: 6 complete sets of magenta front, pink rear and once they're worn out I'll see
Radios: M11X
Is everything ok? Just need to decide for the gearing now and I should be good to go. Everything was bought used but in like new condition. Took me 3 weeks to find everything but now I'm done

Regards Robert
This is what I ended with:
Setup 1:
12R5.2
HW 1S ESC
Futaba 9650
GM 10.5 motor
RX451 receiver
BA005 body
Setup 2:
CRC XTi
HW 1S ESC
Futaba 9650
LRP X11 10.5
RX451 receiver
body?
Lipos: 4x Orion 6400 90C, 1x SMC 6000, 1xCRC 5400
Tires: 6 complete sets of magenta front, pink rear and once they're worn out I'll see
Radios: M11X
Is everything ok? Just need to decide for the gearing now and I should be good to go. Everything was bought used but in like new condition. Took me 3 weeks to find everything but now I'm done
Setup 1:
12R5.2
HW 1S ESC
Futaba 9650
GM 10.5 motor
RX451 receiver
BA005 body
Setup 2:
CRC XTi
HW 1S ESC
Futaba 9650
LRP X11 10.5
RX451 receiver
body?
Lipos: 4x Orion 6400 90C, 1x SMC 6000, 1xCRC 5400
Tires: 6 complete sets of magenta front, pink rear and once they're worn out I'll see
Radios: M11X
Is everything ok? Just need to decide for the gearing now and I should be good to go. Everything was bought used but in like new condition. Took me 3 weeks to find everything but now I'm done

Both my Orion and Crc packs swelled and lost power in the first handful of charges.I switched to Reedy and Revtech and they are great.
http://www.amainhobbies.com/product_...ck-37V-6800mAh
http://www.amainhobbies.com/product_...5C-37V-6800mAh

She fell in love with the car but it's a T-bar so we will need to see if we can adapt lipos on it. We sold three cars to drive in 1/12
I'm looking for the gearing right now, I'm having headaches with our 10.5 motors on such a small track



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