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Old 12-27-2012 | 07:18 PM
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@ the track.

Just tossed a mess of V2 springs.....
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Old 12-27-2012 | 07:21 PM
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Originally Posted by Borik
I got my b4.1 factory worlds kit together. I don't have the BB shocks yet so I'm running the stock shocks. Anyone have a good set up for these shocks? I'm goi g to race stock buggy in an indoor clay track with med to high bite.
If you're running small springs then brown front, green rear. 30 wt in the front 27.5 wt in the rear. 3 limiters in the front and 2 in the rear. 24mm ride height. Run the inside hole on the rear arm and inside hole on rear tower. Then outside hole front arm and inside hole front tower.
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Old 12-27-2012 | 07:41 PM
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Thanks for the help guys with the small shock set up. I will give it a go.
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Old 12-27-2012 | 08:20 PM
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What do you all prefer, shorty packs or regular packs? I bought some shorty packs but after buying them, a few people told me they think the buggy handles better with a full size pack. So since I already bought the shorties, I guess I'm kinda stuck using them. Where's the best place to run them, front, center or rear in the battery tray?
It doesn't. I asked around with some of the fast guys and settled on the battery forward with a short pad up front, and an sc10 pad cut to size for the rear. I ran 13.5 and felt the buggy was well balanced. I prefered the shorty. The buggy felt more responsive, and easy to drive. Dont listen to what anyone tells you including myself. Run the shorty and then beg, borrow, or steal a full size pack and decide for yourself.

Well don't steal it if you don't have to...
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Old 12-27-2012 | 08:25 PM
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I like the shorty on higher bite tracks. more nimble. On low bite tracks, I prefer more weight to get the power to the ground. The nice thing about the shorty is you can always add back the weight if you need it. With the added weight of the BB shocks, we might see more people take lead out of the car.
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Old 12-27-2012 | 08:26 PM
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Originally Posted by Wild Cherry
@ the track.

Just tossed a mess of V2 springs.....
No way! I would have given you a $100 for them! Lol
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Old 12-27-2012 | 08:31 PM
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I like the shorty on higher bite tracks. more nimble. On low bite tracks, I prefer more weight to get the power to the ground. The nice thing about the shorty is you can always add back the weight if you need it. With the added weight of the BB shocks, we might see more people take lead out of the car.
Really? The big bores weigh that much more that you can take weight off? Isnt weight added to balance the car front to rear and side to side?
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Old 12-27-2012 | 09:02 PM
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Originally Posted by zipperfoot
Really? The big bores weigh that much more that you can take weight off? Isnt weight added to balance the car front to rear and side to side?
No they don't... And yes that's what weight is for.
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Old 12-27-2012 | 11:03 PM
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Does anyone know how to fix the steering when you turn one direction and your servo is pushing in that direction, but when you throttling through a turn you push wide until you slow down to turn the direction you want? I always see my servo trying to push my wheels the right direction, but it seems like its not getting enough power and is letting go. Not exactly sure how to explain it, but I hope that is enough. I already have the avid steering block and aluminum horn if that matters.
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Old 12-27-2012 | 11:19 PM
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Originally Posted by Kellen Guthrie
If you're running small springs then brown front, green rear. 30 wt in the front 27.5 wt in the rear. 3 limiters in the front and 2 in the rear. 24mm ride height. Run the inside hole on the rear arm and inside hole on rear tower. Then outside hole front arm and inside hole front tower.
Im guessing by your location that is your OCRC setup? I just got back from practice and am pretty happy with how its driving, currently Im more focused on just putting down a ton of laps to get practice in but I cant help but want to try adding a 3rd limiter in the front (i still have v2 shocks).I have to double check my shock mount but everything else is the same. Would the 3rd limiter make a big difference in on throttle low speed steering? I get a slight push still but learned to work with it. If I can get a little more throttle during the slow sharp turns at ocrc I think the setup I have would be perfect.

I have already messed with the diff, I think its just that the rear is so planted its moving all the weight to the back. oil and springs seem good everywhere on the track, I dont think I wanna change the green rears but was thinking of going to a 30wt in the back or try the 3rd limiter in the front shock. Would appreciate your input.
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Old 12-27-2012 | 11:45 PM
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With the big bore shocks how far are you guys screwing on the shock ends on to the shock shaft? I noticed that I had a lot less droop than several other b4's at my local track. Are most people just screwing them to the end of the threads on the shaft? Just looking for the desired method.
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Old 12-28-2012 | 02:41 AM
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I used to screw them in till them bottomed out, then used digital calipers to match them side to side. Nowadays i screw them until they are even with the shoulder of the shock shaft, just above/at the top of the threads, then make them even side to side.. At least its consistent this way. Similar to gluing tires, i used to only glue the bottom bead where it meets the wheel.. Now i glue all the way where the wheel meets the bottom of the sidewall for less tire deflection. Not that one way is better than the other, i like the consistency of doing these 2 things, among others. You see guys tweaking their buggies for hours at the track for a reason.
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Old 12-28-2012 | 05:56 AM
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Originally Posted by zipperfoot
It doesn't. I asked around with some of the fast guys and settled on the battery forward with a short pad up front, and an sc10 pad cut to size for the rear. I ran 13.5 and felt the buggy was well balanced. I prefered the shorty. The buggy felt more responsive, and easy to drive. Dont listen to what anyone tells you including myself. Run the shorty and then beg, borrow, or steal a full size pack and decide for yourself.

Well don't steal it if you don't have to...
I've only run the buggy twice so far and both times I used a full size pack because that's all I had. Can't complain about the way it handled but I have nothing to compare it to so I'll see how it is with the shorty. I just hope I didn't waste my money on the shorties.
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Old 12-28-2012 | 06:14 AM
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Originally Posted by Gene158
I've only run the buggy twice so far and both times I used a full size pack because that's all I had. Can't complain about the way it handled but I have nothing to compare it to so I'll see how it is with the shorty. I just hope I didn't waste my money on the shorties.
Coming to Wolcott tonight? I've got both packs, and can give you a hand setting your car up.
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Old 12-28-2012 | 07:15 AM
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Originally Posted by mashimarowu
Does anyone know how to fix the steering when you turn one direction and your servo is pushing in that direction, but when you throttling through a turn you push wide until you slow down to turn the direction you want? I always see my servo trying to push my wheels the right direction, but it seems like its not getting enough power and is letting go. Not exactly sure how to explain it, but I hope that is enough. I already have the avid steering block and aluminum horn if that matters.
Initially I would have said its your servo saver (stock assembly) letting go but you did say you have the avid steering block.

To me at least, is it possible that your servo itself is having issues? Anyway you can try a different brand servo?
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