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Old 08-10-2012 | 06:48 AM
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Originally Posted by Smittydidit
Hey fq06, you going to be at west coast tomorrow? A group of us are heading down there to run. Not race, just run. Come on down and let's see if the "Old Man" can keep up with ya!
Damn negative post is loose on my rx8 and it's out for repair. Want to order a BH esc for backup but didn't get to it yet
Got a spare esc for the day I'm there
Oh, and im 39 so I could be the old guy olympics
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Old 08-10-2012 | 06:55 AM
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Cain, I loved different tires from front to rear. Different compounds might help, but I dont think it would help me a ton. I dont need tenths, I need consistency and about 3 seconds. I got exactly what I wanted on my track with snipers in the rear and kit tires up front. The truck was easy to drive and went where ever I wanted. For me the truck has wayyyy to much steering on my home track. And this was night and day. It went from undrivable to easy to drive.
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Old 08-10-2012 | 07:00 AM
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Originally Posted by BlueGlowBoy
Not yet.

I have some weights that I was going to use with my TC5, I can probably repurpose them for the next club race that I can attend.

Most guys are adding it to the front left if running stick packs....I'll give that a try.
Add it down low. A lead strip next to the stick pack down the center. Then tie some string from the front underbody mount to the rear under body mount (or shock towers if you don't have those on your truck) and pick it up. Then add lead to the left of the servo to get it balanced left to right.

If you happen to have 4 digi scales, thats even better, but above is the quick & dirty balance.

More weight down low settles the truck down quite a bit. A side benefit to adding weight to settle the truck is that you will also have a balanced chassis l/r.

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Old 08-10-2012 | 07:06 AM
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Originally Posted by Wildcat1971
Cain, I loved different tires from front to rear. Different compounds might help, but I dont think it would help me a ton. I dont need tenths, I need consistency and about 3 seconds. I got exactly what I wanted on my track with snipers in the rear and kit tires up front. The truck was easy to drive and went where ever I wanted. For me the truck has wayyyy to much steering on my home track. And this was night and day. It went from undrivable to easy to drive.
no worries, the too much steering is probably what some are seeing when they don't feel they have enough traction in the rear at times.

When traction is up, it becomes an advantage but can be a liability when its not for sure.
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Old 08-10-2012 | 07:31 AM
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Originally Posted by 9turn
first what is happining to the truck

tri the mip ez to install and way faster than 2 stage i have both in the past 2 weeks i went from barly making a main to mid pack all most podium main change is mip and ball diff

2stage fast but hard to control mip more forgiving = more consistant laps i went from 37s best and 39s top5 to 32.5s best and 35s top5
Back end always wants to break loose off power. On-power, it used to just keep oversteering. Since going to the overdrive pulley, I have been able to correct the off-power oversteer with a bit of throttle. Now it pushes through corners nicely as long as I have SOME throttle on.

From what everyone is saying, I really need to invest in the centre diff. (And yes, Centre is spelled RE in the queen's english.)
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Old 08-10-2012 | 07:35 AM
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OK, so from what I can tell, the general consensus is for me to buy a centre diff and add enough weight to the left side of my chassis, just to the left of the centre line until I can get it balanced left-to-right.

What about adding weight up front? I've read that this truck is almost 40-60 front to rear, where other trucks are closer to 50-50. Wouldn't adding weight up front, just to the left of centre, benefit me more?
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Old 08-10-2012 | 07:36 AM
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I have 70G up front and the truck handles great, however be warned. If you think of not holding WOT in the air you'll do a front flip.
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Old 08-10-2012 | 07:43 AM
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Just checked wc site. Roar supernationals next two weekends. Oh well maybe Ocrc instead
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Old 08-10-2012 | 07:48 AM
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I'm 56 but I put 4 540 4 pole motors on my walker. The thing fly's around the pits!
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Old 08-10-2012 | 08:19 AM
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Originally Posted by Cain
no worries, the too much steering is probably what some are seeing when they don't feel they have enough traction in the rear at times.

When traction is up, it becomes an advantage but can be a liability when its not for sure.
oh, I am not saying it is a fix for everything. My issue was slowing for a 180, the rear would fly all over the place. the lower bite tires up front caused the rear to follow the front better. On the street or really high bite, the rear can stay more planted. I run on an outdoor track that is anywhere from wet to dry during night races. The trick though is to find the right front/rear combination and that could get expensive. Most people just buy a set of 4 matching tires and try to make them work. But that might not always be optimal. If you have a friend that uses different tires or compounds than you, maybe you can try more combinations and fine one that works well.
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Old 08-10-2012 | 08:21 AM
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Originally Posted by Evil Genius jr.
I have 70G up front and the truck handles great, however be warned. If you think of not holding WOT in the air you'll do a front flip.
I run that much up front and I jump fine. Jumping is less about weight and more about your throttle finger. Obviously if you strap 20lbs to the front, that would be different
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Old 08-10-2012 | 08:23 AM
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Originally Posted by Wildcat1971
oh, I am not saying it is a fix for everything. My issue was slowing for a 180, the rear would fly all over the place. the lower bite tires up front caused the rear to follow the front better. On the street or really high bite, the rear can stay more planted. I run on an outdoor track that is anywhere from wet to dry during night races. The trick though is to find the right front/rear combination and that could get expensive. Most people just buy a set of 4 matching tires and try to make them work. But that might not always be optimal. If you have a friend that uses different tires or compounds than you, maybe you can try more combinations and fine one that works well.
With the center diff, in sections where the tires I had were able to find traction it woudl really pull itself around the turn without stepping the rear out. But similar to your conditions, it can vary alot from when they water to bone dry and slick. Dries out fast too.

hunting for some tires right now thats for sure. City blocks (which I ordered) out here in general work well as an all around tire.
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Old 08-10-2012 | 08:28 AM
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Old 08-10-2012 | 08:29 AM
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Just re-setup my car with 30K up front, 2.2/2.0 bars, and Blue/FWhite springs. That should solve my over-steer and traction roll.

*Note: I specifically tuned my car for over-steer and traction before as I had a ton of push but was still loose.
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Old 08-10-2012 | 08:29 AM
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the fast guy at my track runs an AE 4x4 and used grid irons soft on all 4 wheels. He does not use a locker or C diff or 2 stage pistons and uses a stick pack. He is like WC and AE stock. So it might just be like people say. in the hands of a good driver the truck is fine, but in my mortal hands, it needs a lot of work. heck the fast guy does not even use lead in his truck or exo chassis.
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