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Old 02-28-2012 | 10:33 AM
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At the track right now trying the white front springs on the rear. After 1 pack I'm really liking it. Also went with a lighter front sway and heavy rear. Working on better on power steering. So far I really like the results. Faster on the sweepers and I can really get on it half way through the hair pins and hardly push at all.
looking forward to hear what all you did to your shock setup with the heavier springs.
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Old 02-28-2012 | 11:06 AM
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looking forward to hear what all you did to your shock setup with the heavier springs.
Running 2 stage with 22.5 rear and 27.5 front oil. Ride hight is 22mm.need to make rear hub extenders so I can raise the outside ball on the camber link.
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Old 02-28-2012 | 11:20 AM
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Originally Posted by SCTDan
At the track right now trying the white front springs on the rear. After 1 pack I'm really liking it. Also went with a lighter front sway and heavy rear. Working on better on power steering. So far I really like the results. Faster on the sweepers and I can really get on it half way through the hair pins and hardly push at all.
What is the advantage of having the front spring in the rear instead of having the rear spring in the rear?
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Old 02-28-2012 | 11:21 AM
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My saddle packs were just delivered to my house, I want to go home and run this thing now!!
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Old 02-28-2012 | 11:24 AM
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Originally Posted by special_k
What is the advantage of having the front spring in the rear instead of having the rear spring in the rear?
Higher spring rate from what I am gathering.

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My saddle packs were just delivered to my house, I want to go home and run this thing now!!
Cool. I need to get off my butt and get my SC10 4x4 back together. Sitting in pieces at home.

If we get a big storm tomorrow, maybe I'll do that.
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Old 02-28-2012 | 11:35 AM
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Originally Posted by Cain
Higher spring rate from what I am gathering.
So if u have the same spring (white) for the front and the rear the front will have more of a spring rate if u put it on the rear?
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Old 02-28-2012 | 11:52 AM
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the rear spring rates are lower than the fronts. Putting "front" springs on the rear means you are using a higher spring rate on the rear that what normally would be used.

It doesn't affect the front spring rate.

So for example:

5.0lbs on Front 3 lbs on rear (just using as an example)

Now

5.0lbs on Front 5.0lbs on rear
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Old 02-28-2012 | 11:58 AM
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Originally Posted by special_k
So if u have the same spring (white) for the front and the rear the front will have more of a spring rate if u put it on the rear?
The rears are too soft. The fronts are okay. Compounding the problem is between 52-58% of the total vehicle weight is on the rear, making that spring act even softer.

Front springs are slightly too short for use on the rear, so if you try them, you'll need a 2mm spacer between the eyelet and the spring bucket to shim it up.

If you have a set of stock blue fronts lying around try it. It'll fly a lot better.
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Old 02-28-2012 | 12:16 PM
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Originally Posted by special_k
So if u have the same spring (white) for the front and the rear the front will have more of a spring rate if u put it on the rear?
The front springs are higher spring rates. The red rear (stiffest) is close to the green fronts (softest). I still liked the green fronts over the red rears because the spring is shorter. Just works better on my track surface. My last practice the whites where pretty good over the greens but my track right now has hardly any jumps and pretty high bite wet clay.
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Old 02-28-2012 | 12:20 PM
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so using the stiffer front springs helps it fly better? Are there any other benefits being seen?
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Old 02-28-2012 | 12:30 PM
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so using the stiffer front springs helps it fly better? Are there any other benefits being seen?
Yes the truck does jump better but it also drives the corners faster because of the stiffer rear spring rate. Try it you might like it on your track too.
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Old 02-28-2012 | 12:40 PM
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The reason Im asking is I have white rear springs on the rear so should i try using front white spring in the rear? or am I not getting what yall saying just trying to get a handle on this lol
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Old 02-28-2012 | 01:14 PM
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Originally Posted by special_k
The reason Im asking is I have white rear springs
What are you trying to do?

on the rear so should i try using front white spring in the rear? or am I not getting what yall saying just trying to get a handle on this lol
Let me explain the problem again - the rear spring rate (in lbs) is too soft. All of the rear springs are too soft.

The rear spring selection is:

2.5lb White Rear Springs
2.8lb Blue Rear Springs
3.1lb Yellow Rear Springs
3.4lb Red Rear Springs

The front spring selection is:

3.5lb Green Front Springs
3.9lb White Front Springs
4.3lb Blue Front Springs
4.8lb Yellow Front Springs.

If you run the same color fronts and rears, you wind up with a rear spring that is 1/3 softer than the front, on an axle that has 15-25% more weight. This is bad. I can't speak for Cameron, but I would run longer rear springs if I could get them in much higher rates. Since I can't, I run front springs in the rear AND the front.

The result of stiffer springs is truck jumps better, is better through bumps if the track gets rough, and helps the torque biasing on and off power. If you try it, you need to run thicker oil in the rear than you were before.
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Old 02-28-2012 | 01:41 PM
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Default clicking noise is back

I posted awhile ago about a clicking noise i was having under heavy throttle. I took the rear diff out and replaced the diff oil that was leaking out and put everything back together. The noise went away for a week or so and returned today at the track. It will click under hard throttle and while turning towards the driver side but not while turning toward the passenger side. What do you guys think. Just seems weird that it went away then came back. btw I am running the factory battery tray and stock slipper, but have the brace and mantis center diff coming soon.
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Old 02-28-2012 | 01:46 PM
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Originally Posted by CraigMBA
What are you trying to do?



Let me explain the problem again - the rear spring rate (in lbs) is too soft. All of the rear springs are too soft.

The rear spring selection is:

2.5lb White Rear Springs
2.8lb Blue Rear Springs
3.1lb Yellow Rear Springs
3.4lb Red Rear Springs

The front spring selection is:

3.5lb Green Front Springs
3.9lb White Front Springs
4.3lb Blue Front Springs
4.8lb Yellow Front Springs.

If you run the same color fronts and rears, you wind up with a rear spring that is 1/3 softer than the front, on an axle that has 15-25% more weight. This is bad. I can't speak for Cameron, but I would run longer rear springs if I could get them in much higher rates. Since I can't, I run front springs in the rear AND the front.

The result of stiffer springs is truck jumps better, is better through bumps if the track gets rough, and helps the torque biasing on and off power. If you try it, you need to run thicker oil in the rear than you were before.

Thank u I understand now sorry for being so stupid or hard headed lol. i just thought if u had the same color it would be the same spring rate. Im not doing anything right now I was just wondering why yall were putting front spring on the rear but I understand now.
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