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Old 01-21-2012 | 09:36 PM
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Originally Posted by B.A. Racer
are you sure you dont have front springs? when i ran kyosho springs they worked great
Thanks for everyone's response on the subject!

This is the part I ordered from amain. 1 x KYOW5183-60 Kyosho Rear Shock Spring, Long (Dark Yellow - #60) (ZX-5) (2)

Right now I am running the reg. spring cups. I ordered the offset sping cups yesterday.. neither one of my lhs had them in stock. Does it really make a large difference?
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Old 01-21-2012 | 09:42 PM
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Originally Posted by t.mathewson
Can anybody measure and tell me how much longer, if any, are the kyosho rear springs from one another?

I want to compare the
KYOW5183-72 Cobalt Blue 2.30
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KYOW5183-60 Dark Yellow 1.97

I tried to run the dark yellow on my buggy in last nights race, but the v2 shocks couldn't get the rear to 24mm even with the collar threaded all the way down.
Make sure you run the associated offset cups and lower eyes from the V2 shocks, they work great and you'll have plenty of adjustment.
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Old 01-21-2012 | 10:52 PM
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Here is a question I have for the 4 or 4.1 guys. Why do you insist on using other springs or big bore springs? The only reason I could see would be if it were a different rate... Anyone else have any other answers?
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Old 01-21-2012 | 11:50 PM
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Originally Posted by Ostach24
Here is a question I have for the 4 or 4.1 guys. Why do you insist on using other springs or big bore springs? The only reason I could see would be if it were a different rate... Anyone else have any other answers?
Cause they look sweet!
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Old 01-22-2012 | 12:01 AM
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what do the camber link locations on the shock towers offer in the tuning aspect? what do the 2 ballstud holes offer when going from inside to outside hole and adding and subtracting ballstud washers? i dont know what the offer pros and cons somebody please help and ty
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Old 01-22-2012 | 12:14 AM
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Originally Posted by Ostach24
Here is a question I have for the 4 or 4.1 guys. Why do you insist on using other springs or big bore springs? The only reason I could see would be if it were a different rate... Anyone else have any other answers?
Ae springs rub on the shock bodies. The big bore springs do not.
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Old 01-22-2012 | 03:29 AM
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Originally Posted by dirt_oval
I honestly have no idea why they have 2.2 buggy tires listed, without the 4wd in the front of it. Because no Cougar fronts use a pin style rim. This is the front you should have either bought, or exchange them with(AMain is awesome about returns).

http://www.amainhobbies.com/product_...Tires-Yellow-2

I am sorry that neither you or I looked closer, but should not be difficult to exchange!
I can see in that pic what looks like a bearing recess, I will just list these on ebay and buy the tires and glue up a set myself.
Thanks dirt oval.
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Old 01-22-2012 | 09:17 AM
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Originally Posted by gamedog1966
what do the camber link locations on the shock towers offer in the tuning aspect? what do the 2 ballstud holes offer when going from inside to outside hole and adding and subtracting ballstud washers? i dont know what the offer pros and cons somebody please help and ty
when you make them shorter the steering reacts faster but less steering, longer is more steering but it reacts slower, standard is basically inside on tower, inside on hub...1 washer.
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Old 01-22-2012 | 10:55 AM
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Originally Posted by idrummerboy13
when you make them shorter the steering reacts faster but less steering, longer is more steering but it reacts slower, standard is basically inside on tower, inside on hub...1 washer.
i was running the brent thiekle setup and it had me place the ballstuds on the outer hole on the tower and my car pushed in a switchback pretty hard and i didnt know what to do. i was thinkin about moving it inside to see just what is will do but im not sure since im very new to racing rc
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Old 01-22-2012 | 11:30 AM
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Originally Posted by Ostach24
Here is a question I have for the 4 or 4.1 guys. Why do you insist on using other springs or big bore springs? The only reason I could see would be if it were a different rate... Anyone else have any other answers?
Aside from the springs rubbing there are other benefits to the BB springs. Since they are a larger diameter, for a similar spring rate the willingness for the spring to buckle reduces substantially, and therefor decreases any side loading that would be imparted onto the shock (also causes the rubbing). This side loading increases shock shaft drag and reduces the amount of force being transferred to the tire. A lower force (downward), especially when cornering decreases tire grip. Both of the Ryans feel that our standard shock creates more side-bite than a BB, at the expense of the car not landing big jumps as well. I personally don't really think BB's are better, and we have been able to prove that they are magical (significantly faster) in any sense but there are some small advantages. I think people in general just think they need them....but we are working on our BB shocks and they will definitely be THE BEST!
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Old 01-22-2012 | 12:19 PM
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Originally Posted by patiofurniture
Aside from the springs rubbing there are other benefits to the BB springs. Since they are a larger diameter, for a similar spring rate the willingness for the spring to buckle reduces substantially, and therefor decreases any side loading that would be imparted onto the shock (also causes the rubbing). This side loading increases shock shaft drag and reduces the amount of force being transferred to the tire. A lower force (downward), especially when cornering decreases tire grip. Both of the Ryans feel that our standard shock creates more side-bite than a BB, at the expense of the car not landing big jumps as well. I personally don't really think BB's are better, and we have been able to prove that they are magical (significantly faster) in any sense but there are some small advantages. I think people in general just think they need them....but we are working on our BB shocks and they will definitely be THE BEST!
Looking forward to the new BB shocks. Quick question to you, will the shocks be available as after market items for current b4/b4.1 owners, or will they only be available in the next RC10 model? Do we have to wait for the new model before the shocks are available?
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Old 01-22-2012 | 12:33 PM
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Originally Posted by patiofurniture
Aside from the springs rubbing there are other benefits to the BB springs. Since they are a larger diameter, for a similar spring rate the willingness for the spring to buckle reduces substantially, and therefor decreases any side loading that would be imparted onto the shock (also causes the rubbing). This side loading increases shock shaft drag and reduces the amount of force being transferred to the tire. A lower force (downward), especially when cornering decreases tire grip. Both of the Ryans feel that our standard shock creates more side-bite than a BB, at the expense of the car not landing big jumps as well. I personally don't really think BB's are better, and we have been able to prove that they are magical (significantly faster) in any sense but there are some small advantages. I think people in general just think they need them....but we are working on our BB shocks and they will definitely be THE BEST!
that's right there ganna be the best, most bb shock cars(all) don't react like this car, they don't have the side bite and with the bb springs the bumps become nothing

thanks for actually testing things and making sure they will only work well.
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Old 01-22-2012 | 12:37 PM
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Big bores will be available as a factory team part for the B4/ B4.1.
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Old 01-22-2012 | 12:39 PM
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Originally Posted by patiofurniture
Big bores will be available as a factory team part for the B4/ B4.1.
good to hear!
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Old 01-22-2012 | 12:41 PM
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Originally Posted by patiofurniture
Big bores will be available as a factory team part for the B4/ B4.1.
I will defiantly get them just to say i have em and just to see if they are better for myself, is this going to be anytime soon? Very happy to hear.
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