Cheap power systems
12-28-2011 | 10:25 AM
#76
We handle all warranty and non-warranty service directly with the customer. I have been a member of this forum for 6 years assisting our customers whenever they need help or have questions. Novak also has a full customer service and tech support department.
Whenever i have contemporaneous information, I can respond to any issues that arise. I apologize for any of the past incidents mentioned above, but we could have quickly resolved them if we were contacted directly for assistance. We have no control over the day-to-day policies and procedures of international distributors, but when problems are called to our attention we can intervene and make sure that our warranties are enforced.
Whenever i have contemporaneous information, I can respond to any issues that arise. I apologize for any of the past incidents mentioned above, but we could have quickly resolved them if we were contacted directly for assistance. We have no control over the day-to-day policies and procedures of international distributors, but when problems are called to our attention we can intervene and make sure that our warranties are enforced.
12-28-2011 | 05:28 PM
#78
We handle all warranty and non-warranty service directly with the customer. I have been a member of this forum for 6 years assisting our customers whenever they need help or have questions. Novak also has a full customer service and tech support department.
Whenever i have contemporaneous information, I can respond to any issues that arise. I apologize for any of the past incidents mentioned above, but we could have quickly resolved them if we were contacted directly for assistance. We have no control over the day-to-day policies and procedures of international distributors, but when problems are called to our attention we can intervene and make sure that our warranties are enforced.
Whenever i have contemporaneous information, I can respond to any issues that arise. I apologize for any of the past incidents mentioned above, but we could have quickly resolved them if we were contacted directly for assistance. We have no control over the day-to-day policies and procedures of international distributors, but when problems are called to our attention we can intervene and make sure that our warranties are enforced.
12-28-2011 | 06:29 PM
#80
Never thought the day would come when hobbypartz seemed expensive 
. I just got back from a vacation and got my package on ebay which I had won last week.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Sensored-Bru...item256ad960c9
I can vouch this ESC is exactly equivalent to the xerun 120A sensored HW.
There are some differences though. The cap module is heatshrunk and layout is different (capacity of the caps seems same size wise). All wires are pre soldered (this is a bad thing for me since I like laying custom wiring and now have to splice and all). And all wires are 14GA while the HW comes with 12GA. Other than that the hardware version is exactly same as the 120A HW i.e. HW247_v1.0 which itself is no slouch as is.
So this might be the deal of the century super happy with my purchase
. I just got back from a vacation and got my package on ebay which I had won last week. http://www.ebay.com/itm/Sensored-Bru...item256ad960c9
I can vouch this ESC is exactly equivalent to the xerun 120A sensored HW.
There are some differences though. The cap module is heatshrunk and layout is different (capacity of the caps seems same size wise). All wires are pre soldered (this is a bad thing for me since I like laying custom wiring and now have to splice and all). And all wires are 14GA while the HW comes with 12GA. Other than that the hardware version is exactly same as the 120A HW i.e. HW247_v1.0 which itself is no slouch as is.
So this might be the deal of the century
super happy with my purchase
12-28-2011 | 06:30 PM
#81
12-29-2011 | 07:57 AM
#82
Joined: Jun 2008
Posts: 3,891
From: anywhere I can race 2wd dirt,and 1/12 onroad in MI.
Never thought the day would come when hobbypartz seemed expensive . I just got back from a vacation and got my package on ebay which I had won last week.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Sensored-Bru...item256ad960c9
I can vouch this ESC is exactly equivalent to the xerun 120A sensored HW.
There are some differences though. The cap module is heatshrunk and layout is different (capacity of the caps seems same size wise). All wires are pre soldered (this is a bad thing for me since I like laying custom wiring and now have to splice and all). And all wires are 14GA while the HW comes with 12GA. Other than that the hardware version is exactly same as the 120A HW i.e. HW247_v1.0 which itself is no slouch as is.
So this might be the deal of the century super happy with my purchase
. I just got back from a vacation and got my package on ebay which I had won last week. http://www.ebay.com/itm/Sensored-Bru...item256ad960c9
I can vouch this ESC is exactly equivalent to the xerun 120A sensored HW.
There are some differences though. The cap module is heatshrunk and layout is different (capacity of the caps seems same size wise). All wires are pre soldered (this is a bad thing for me since I like laying custom wiring and now have to splice and all). And all wires are 14GA while the HW comes with 12GA. Other than that the hardware version is exactly same as the 120A HW i.e. HW247_v1.0 which itself is no slouch as is.
So this might be the deal of the century
super happy with my purchase
12-29-2011 | 08:10 AM
#83
Joined: Jun 2008
Posts: 3,891
From: anywhere I can race 2wd dirt,and 1/12 onroad in MI.
so far there has been alot of discussion about CLONES, but really the systems we have discussed so far are not really clones but products that are being re-badged and sold under different names.I define a CLONE as a copy of a product.Usually an unliscensed copy even.So I dug up a good example of a true clone.A company named INIX is selling clones of Novaks ballistic line of motors.At first sight they look like a novak except for the green center ring.Upon closer inspection there are some subtle differences like the vent holes machined in the front endbell..My question is has anybody tried one, and is the stator replaceable with the novak stators??the motors themselves are in the $50 range while they are also bundled with a 60a speedo for around $100..have not seen any reveiws on the speedo and from the looks of it it is NOT just a re-badged hobbywing as so many of the other speedos out there are...
12-29-2011 | 10:54 AM
#85
Have only put latest Firmware on it as of now. Should have it in a CAT SX2 with a tekin 7.5 turn by next week
12-29-2011 | 11:33 AM
#86
U S A...
Could I be allowed to put in a good word for Novak's American-manufactured electronics? We make our BL, sensored controllers and motors here in our Irvine factory, employing American workers. Therefore, we can't offer the cheapest electronics, but we do offer fast support for our customers and have a full customer service and tech support team. We attend races and are always here to help.
We have been in business over 33 years and designed the first MOSFET-based electronic ESC as well as the first sensored BL motor and esc for ROAR-type racing. Many of the advances in both BL motor and ESC technology have originated with Novak's design team. (If we didn't innovate, they couldn't duplicate.)
We offer comprehensive, and unmatched, Trade-In and Legacy Lifetime programs so that our customers can always trade in old Novak items for our newest products at a considerable discount. In addition, we design our electronics to be mostly user-repairable, or completely re-buildable, and distribute a huge selection of after-market service items and repair parts---and make sure they are always available.
We maintain a factory-RMF store, where most of our current items are priced at a steep discount and come with a new factory warranty. We also designed a complete line of affordable, sensored combos, unmatched in price, or features, by any other American manufacturer. These are some of the points that we would like you to consider when making Your new electronics purchase.
We have been in business over 33 years and designed the first MOSFET-based electronic ESC as well as the first sensored BL motor and esc for ROAR-type racing. Many of the advances in both BL motor and ESC technology have originated with Novak's design team. (If we didn't innovate, they couldn't duplicate.)
We offer comprehensive, and unmatched, Trade-In and Legacy Lifetime programs so that our customers can always trade in old Novak items for our newest products at a considerable discount. In addition, we design our electronics to be mostly user-repairable, or completely re-buildable, and distribute a huge selection of after-market service items and repair parts---and make sure they are always available.
We maintain a factory-RMF store, where most of our current items are priced at a steep discount and come with a new factory warranty. We also designed a complete line of affordable, sensored combos, unmatched in price, or features, by any other American manufacturer. These are some of the points that we would like you to consider when making Your new electronics purchase.
12-29-2011 | 11:46 AM
#87
Joined: Jun 2008
Posts: 3,891
From: anywhere I can race 2wd dirt,and 1/12 onroad in MI.
I didnt know that novak is american made, produced, and sold..I will most certianly be changing to novak..People are complaining about the economy in our country but dont support it..I could make this a mean post but im not gonna.If more people bought american, maybe our economy would be better..
Last edited by 2wdMod; 12-29-2011 at 12:13 PM.
12-29-2011 | 01:35 PM
#88
What they SHOULD be saying is ASSEMBLED in the usa made from globaly sourced components..I do beleive novak lost a lawsuit in california over that very statement..as to just HOW globally sourced the components are that is for novak to know and us to speculate upon.I live in Michigan, and we can tell you from the decline in our statewide economy that American owned, and assembled is much different than american MADE all together..I beleive the term with in the industry for out sourcing is "farming out"..A good example of "farming out" and its effect on the RC industry would be Associated.Associated was an american made, american owned company..They started outsourcing their parts and now a company that they outsourced a majority of their components to in the past actually OWNS them now..Thunder Tiger.
12-29-2011 | 01:37 PM
#89
Joined: Jun 2008
Posts: 3,891
From: anywhere I can race 2wd dirt,and 1/12 onroad in MI.
12-29-2011 | 02:06 PM
#90
Company Representative
Joined: Jun 2005
Posts: 2,891
From: SoCal
What they SHOULD be saying is ASSEMBLED in the usa made from globaly sourced components.I do beleive novak lost a lawsuit in california over that very statement..as to just HOW globally sourced the components are that is for novak to know and us to speculate upon.
I live in Michigan, and we can tell you from the decline in our statewide economy that American owned, and assembled is much different than american MADE all together..I beleive the term with in the industry for out sourcing is "farming out"..A good example of "farming out" and its effect on the RC industry would be Associated.Associated was an american made, american owned company..They started outsourcing their parts and now a company that they outsourced a majority of their components to in the past actually OWNS them now..Thunder Tiger.
I live in Michigan, and we can tell you from the decline in our statewide economy that American owned, and assembled is much different than american MADE all together..I beleive the term with in the industry for out sourcing is "farming out"..A good example of "farming out" and its effect on the RC industry would be Associated.Associated was an american made, american owned company..They started outsourcing their parts and now a company that they outsourced a majority of their components to in the past actually OWNS them now..Thunder Tiger.
We were not involved in a lawsuit---@5 companies in the industry were sent warning letters by a CA law firm. If you manufacture in California, or even ship/sell products into CA, you cannot claim "Made in the USA" unless each and every component, down to a .001 cent resistor is made in the USA.
So even companies, such as Novak, manufacturing here for 33 years cannot advertise "Made in the USA". Therefore, we adopted the "Designed, assembled and tested by Novak in Irvine, Calif., using globally sourced components." A similar disclaimer is probably used by everyone by now.