Originally Posted by Granpa

So true, but it's really impressive in how much ones driving improves when the car is set up right. Practice with an ill handling car does very little to improve ones driving ability. All it does is lead to frustration and the loss of someone to the hobby. Frankly, and I'm not saying this is true of you, whenever I hear this advice , it's coming from someone who's not willing to give some poor guy who's struggling a hand.

Generally, better advice might be to seek out someone like Calvin and get him to help you on your setup or even to have him drive it and get his input. By the way, glad you made it back Calvin. At my track, there are very few guys that won't give someone a hand and I'm sure this is true at most tracks.

Please don't take this the wrong way, but this practice, practice and more practice crap just gives me a pain. You're just one of too many who spout this drivel. Thank God that Kevin, Craig, Mark ,Devin, Micheal, Chuck, Brandon, Steve, Dennis and others at the track and Pms from Calvin, Ray K and others didn't just tell me to go practice with the pieces of junk I was trying to make go fast.

Sorry, nothing personal, but I'd just heard that line one time too many.