Yeah in Oregon seems like we get 3 months of Sun for outdoor racing. Our NW SC Nationals is coming up in 4 weeks and I need some big outdoor track practice. Nogeating a 180deg turn 80 feet away is way different than the 40 feet at the indoor track. Especialy for my "older" eyes. I actually have a different contact perscription for outdoor racing. Guess that might make me a hard core RC racer.