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iraklas 08-07-2017 09:49 AM

Loss in performance
 
Hi guys, i want to share my experience and i’m looking for any suggestions. I have a TLR 8ight with a 4268 motor and a 180amp esc. I am doing speedruns at the moment so i use a 20t pinion with a 45t spur gear. The problem is that i experience performance loss after the first five minutes of a couple of sprints and general mild driving. Maximum temps i see is 150f on the esc and 130f on the motor. The battery i use is a Gens Ace 4s 6750 70c which gets warm but not hot and only has about 15 charge cycles. Any ideas with what’s causing the loss in performance? I have tested the battery and all cells were at 3.79v after 10 minutes of driving which means that a big voltage drop is unlikely. Also, all cells have IR below 5.

MarkA 08-07-2017 11:29 AM


Originally Posted by iraklas (Post 14995984)
I have tested the battery and all cells were at 3.79v after 10 minutes of driving which means that a big voltage drop is unlikely.

You're measuring unloaded resting voltage. Your full load voltage drop with that setup at that gearing will be extreme - I'm surprised you're not tickling the LVC if that is your end voltage. For example, at the end of a 6 minute race run, a 2s pack in my 1/10th mod buggy carpet car might read around 3.75v/cell resting but the HW system will report a min. pack voltage of 5.3 total (my LVC is set at 5.1v/pack) during the last run - that's 2.65v/cell under load and you should be pushing your packs harder.

In other words, for what you are doing, actually, nothing seems unusual even if you are only doing a limited number of full pulls in that time.

Zinergy 08-07-2017 11:57 AM

Is this the RTR losi 8ight with the dynamite fuse ESC?

iraklas 08-07-2017 12:48 PM


Originally Posted by Zinergy (Post 14996121)
Is this the RTR losi 8ight with the dynamite fuse ESC?

No, 8ight-e 4.0 with a muchmore m8 esc and muchmore zx8 motor

iraklas 08-09-2017 04:19 AM

So that's the case with speedruns? You only have a very limited amount of time before your voltage drops significantly?

eR1c 08-10-2017 04:01 PM

I can speak to my on-road cars, -after 5 or 6 mins performance does start to fade, ...its not super noticeable but I can see it w/ my lap times. I am usually going all out for 5 mins (qualifying) and 6mins in mains. My experience is both motor gets tired and battery starts to lose its punch. I believe that is normal. ..especially if your doing all out speed runs ...5 mins or so and you'd expect to see some fade.


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