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PhilipBGreen 01-01-2017 08:37 PM

Servo Options ?
 
Hey all, like the Title states I'm looking for some opinions on Servo's, right now I use a ProTek 100T it has 216oz torque and a .14 transit Time, I've had it a few months and its nice and at 55$, a great deal as far as value vs Performance, However I've sunk a considerable amount of cash in my Sct with the goal of building a superior track monster and because my kit was no longer available as a kit I had to buy and build it piece by piece so why not get the best, but more importantly I just plain love the darn thing.
anywho I now feel she deserve's a Higher end servo I'm looking to spend 100-150$ maybe more But I just don't know what one to get, I like Japanese product but I'm not brand loyal, I understand cored vs core less and metal gears vs the non, I def want one that's faster to but that's the extent of what I know about servo's.
I looked up a couple but I feel like there's so much more out there witch is why I'm posting this Id like some opinions and recommendations from the experienced, I would be great full for your input.

Please no arguing or debate'n I'm going to read all opinions learn, look at the mentioned brands look them up and make a choice so thanks in advance for keeping it simple and fun.

Sincerely, Phil

EbbTide 01-01-2017 08:40 PM

I would look at the xpert 4000 series servo. It can run up to 6.6v with up to 267oz torque and a .07 sec transit speed for $80. Best of both worlds in my opinion, we'll priced, quick and strong.

PhilipBGreen 01-01-2017 08:51 PM


Originally Posted by EbbTide (Post 14786165)
I would look at the xpert 4000 series servo. It can run up to 6.6v with up to 267oz torque and a .07 sec transit speed for $80. Best of both worlds in my opinion, we'll priced, quick and strong.

Thanks, this is exactly what I mean I've never heard of xpert Im def looking them up. how is there service life for you so far ?

EbbTide 01-01-2017 08:56 PM


Originally Posted by PhilipBGreen (Post 14786176)
Thanks, this is exactly what I mean I've never heard of xpert Im def looking them up. how is there service life for you so far ?

Well I have about one year with no issues on my low profile xpert servo in my 2wd buggy and so far I've only had a chance to test out their 4000 series in my 4x4 sct. But the reviews on it from Amain show a lot of promise.

PhilipBGreen 01-01-2017 09:02 PM


Originally Posted by EbbTide (Post 14786178)
Well I have about one year with no issues on my low profile xpert servo in my 2wd buggy and so far I've only had a chance to test out their 4000 series in my 4x4 sct. But the reviews on it from Amain show a lot of promise.

thanks, yeah that was my next ? where did you buy it, cause I couldn't see any info on a 4000 series on there website but ill check it out over at AMain.

EbbTide 01-01-2017 09:06 PM


Originally Posted by PhilipBGreen (Post 14786185)
thanks, yeah that was my next ? where did you buy it, cause I couldn't see any info on a 4000 series on there website but ill check it out over at AMain.

Technically I got it through my local hobbytown because I get their employee discount. But they ordered from Amain.com in a bulk shipment

https://www.amainhobbies.com/xpert-4000-series-high-speed-aluminum-center-case-servo-xptsi-4431/p276593

PhilipBGreen 01-01-2017 09:28 PM


Originally Posted by EbbTide (Post 14786195)
Technically I got it through my local hobbytown because I get their employee discount. But they ordered from Amain.com in a bulk shipment

https://www.amainhobbies.com/xpert-4...i-4431/p276593

yeah these are some dope servo's but the 4000's not for me tho its numbers are impressive but I really want an all aluminum servo, not that you were supposed to know that lol, so I'm now looking at the Xpert MM-3301 Or even The Xpert R1 :)

hey thanks for turning me on to the Brand there def on the list !!!

PhilipBGreen 01-01-2017 09:36 PM

Common guys Feed me some different Brands share some opinions, also I was just thinking will my radio have a direct effect on my servo like for instance I use a futaba 3prka there entry level unit, I bought it cause it had won a BigSquid shoot out against much more expensive units and fit my budget at the Time.

but am I correct in thinking that it does not matter how fast a servo is if the radio is not just as Fast ? and would it be true to say matching servo and radio work better together ?

EbbTide 01-01-2017 09:43 PM


Originally Posted by PhilipBGreen (Post 14786219)
yeah these are some dope servo's but the 4000's not for me tho its numbers are impressive but I really want an all aluminum servo, not that you were supposed to know that lol, so I'm now looking at the Xpert MM-3301 Or even The Xpert R1 :)

hey thanks for turning me on to the Brand there def on the list !!!

No worries mate, it's better to buy right the first time so you gotta get what you want :)

King DORK 01-01-2017 10:12 PM

Phillip, what's up bro? My 3 favorite servo brands currently are Xpert, Spektrum, and Protek. Given what you're after, check out the Spektrum S6290, and the Protek 150s. If you might consider a shorty, check out the Protek 160t. Happy hunting!

trigger 01-01-2017 10:57 PM


Originally Posted by PhilipBGreen (Post 14786227)
Common guys Feed me some different Brands share some opinions, also I was just thinking will my radio have a direct effect on my servo like for instance I use a futaba 3prka there entry level unit, I bought it cause it had won a BigSquid shoot out against much more expensive units and fit my budget at the Time.

but am I correct in thinking that it does not matter how fast a servo is if the radio is not just as Fast ? and would it be true to say matching servo and radio work better together ?

Servo transit speed should be accurate to its advertised ratings, but since you're using an entry level radio system, the latency from transmitter to receiver will be limited.

EbbTide 01-01-2017 11:11 PM


Originally Posted by trigger (Post 14786269)
Servo transit speed should be accurate to its advertised ratings, but since you're using an entry level radio system, the latency from transmitter to receiver will be limited.

+1

I'm not sure what the actual latency is on futaba FHSS systems but I'd bet it's no faster than .10 seconds which would mean a servo can only transmit at .10 seconds regardless of specs.

PhilipBGreen 01-02-2017 12:32 AM


Originally Posted by King DORK (Post 14786243)
Phillip, what's up bro? My 3 favorite servo brands currently are Xpert, Spektrum, and Protek. Given what you're after, check out the Spektrum S6290, and the Protek 150s. If you might consider a shorty, check out the Protek 160t. Happy hunting!


Originally Posted by trigger (Post 14786269)
Servo transit speed should be accurate to its advertised ratings, but since you're using an entry level radio system, the latency from transmitter to receiver will be limited.


Originally Posted by EbbTide (Post 14786274)
+1

I'm not sure what the actual latency is on futaba FHSS systems but I'd bet it's no faster than .10 seconds which would mean a servo can only transmit at .10 seconds regardless of specs.

Whats up brotha !!! Thanks for the info +KingDork and Thank all you guy's, seriously, After hearing this I Think it would be smart of me to upgrade my radio system before I get a really nice servo as I would like to be able to take advantage of it, specially after testing on the ozite, my sct had become much sharper more responsive everything just felt amplified from all the traction witch is another reason I wanted to upgrade, I'm going to do some research on the Futaba FHSS system or at least look through the manual and find out for sure.

If you guy's could name a few radio systems that can operate in the .6 .7 range of the top of your head that would be awesome, I could most likely find it used for a good deal. ounce upon a time I was Looking at the Sanwa MT4s I think this one is really fast and would prolly be my first choice sense I could prolly sell my futaba and protek together and put that toward a brand new Mt4s

EbbTide 01-02-2017 03:56 AM


Originally Posted by PhilipBGreen (Post 14786299)
Whats up brotha !!! Thanks for the info +KingDork and Thank all you guy's, seriously, After hearing this I Think it would be smart of me to upgrade my radio system before I get a really nice servo as I would like to be able to take advantage of it, specially after testing on the ozite, my sct had become much sharper more responsive everything just felt amplified from all the traction witch is another reason I wanted to upgrade, I'm going to do some research on the Futaba FHSS system or at least look through the manual and find out for sure.

If you guy's could name a few radio systems that can operate in the .6 .7 range of the top of your head that would be awesome, I could most likely find it used for a good deal. ounce upon a time I was Looking at the Sanwa MT4s I think this one is really fast and would prolly be my first choice sense I could prolly sell my futaba and protek together and put that toward a brand new Mt4s

Either the Sanwa MT-4S or the Futaba 4pv would get you down to near zero latency. I think they both bring you around .01 or .02 seconds. But my personal favorite would be the Sanwa because I've always used them and I've never had an issue with their servo's or transmitter/Receiver combos.

But either way you go would see you happy with the speed. Both transmitters are similarly priced and have similar specs so it'd just be a matter of deciding which one you like the look of most ;)

King DORK 01-02-2017 09:09 AM

Phillip, if I was in the market for a new radio I'd get one of the Sanwas. Not saying they're better than Futaba, or worse for that matter, that's just what I'd get. Until then, my fossil of a Spektrum DX3R Pro has been serving me just fine, lol.

PhilipBGreen 01-02-2017 03:13 PM


Originally Posted by EbbTide (Post 14786344)
Either the Sanwa MT-4S or the Futaba 4pv would get you down to near zero latency. I think they both bring you around .01 or .02 seconds. But my personal favorite would be the Sanwa because I've always used them and I've never had an issue with their servo's or transmitter/Receiver combos.

But either way you go would see you happy with the speed. Both transmitters are similarly priced and have similar specs so it'd just be a matter of deciding which one you like the look of most ;)


Originally Posted by King DORK (Post 14786591)
Phillip, if I was in the market for a new radio I'd get one of the Sanwas. Not saying they're better than Futaba, or worse for that matter, that's just what I'd get. Until then, my fossil of a Spektrum DX3R Pro has been serving me just fine, lol.

yeah guys I'm thinking the Sanwa for sure, from what I read the mt4s does not support code 10 and Im really interested in the Sanwa vortex gen 2 Esc I guess you can program the esc right from the radio, thing says its a 1000 amp phase peak, anyway the mt44 supports code ten and I'm also Looking at a Sanwa Servo I May just have to try out that new Affirm credit system at AMain 0 interest for 12 months only this month :)

I would grab that m12s but then my total would come out to about a grand im tryna keep it under 600 plus I kinda wanna see where the android cpu cell phone screen thing will go it might become the future of radios for all brands as that's about advanced as it gets ounce you start using mini quad core cpu's it will become all about software and updates as there will be no real need to update hardware.

@KingDork Lol Affirm !!!

EbbTide 01-02-2017 03:25 PM


Originally Posted by PhilipBGreen (Post 14787003)
yeah guys I'm thinking the Sanwa for sure, from what I read the mt4s does not support code 10 and Im really interested in the Sanwa vortex gen 2 Esc I guess you can program the esc right from the radio, thing says its a 1000 amp phase peak anyway the mt44 supports code ten and I'm also Looking at a Sanwa Servo I May just have to try out that new Affirm credit system at AMain 0 interest for 12 months only this month :)

@KingDork Lol Affirm !!!

I can say sanwa servo and receiver combos are fantastic. I run airtronics servo and RX in my 2wd short course and the steering response is snappy but smooth as butter.

I'd be interested to hear your experience with the Sanwa esc though if you do get it. I've been mulling it over whether it's worth switching from my current setup in my 4x4 sc to one of Sanwa ESC but I never had the cajones to cough up the cash lol

PhilipBGreen 01-02-2017 03:45 PM


Originally Posted by EbbTide (Post 14787017)
I can say sanwa servo and receiver combos are fantastic. I run airtronics servo and RX in my 2wd short course and the steering response is snappy but smooth as butter.

I'd be interested to hear your experience with the Sanwa esc though if you do get it. I've been mulling it over whether it's worth switching from my current setup in my 4x4 sc to one of Sanwa ESC but I never had the cajones to cough up the cash lol

thats good to hear, and lmao Im in the same Boat ,I see there is a mt44 thread up top going strong with several pages I wonder if any of them are using the esc in conjunction ?

EbbTide 01-02-2017 05:01 PM


Originally Posted by PhilipBGreen (Post 14787044)
thats good to hear, and lmao Im in the same Boat ,I see there is a mt44 thread up top going strong with several pages I wonder if any of them are using the esc in conjunction ?

I guess we'll have to read through the thread to find out lol. But I wouldn't doubt it if some of them were running one. I'd definitely like to see how they compare to top esc's like the RX8 gen2 or the Orion R10. And of course the ever reliable hobbywing XERUN ESC's.

PhilipBGreen 01-02-2017 05:20 PM


Originally Posted by EbbTide (Post 14787147)
I guess we'll have to read through the thread to find out lol. But I wouldn't doubt it if some of them were running one. I'd definitely like to see how they compare to top esc's like the RX8 gen2 or the Orion R10. And of course the ever reliable hobbywing XERUN ESC's.

lol I just read through it there is a couple people using it and say its working good but thats about it, there's a gentlemen by the name Neil on there who just taught me everything I need to know, basicly sanwa tx/rx 101 I even feel smarter Im glad I red that. Im going to fill out an Affirm app and if all goes well place an order. ;)

there are two things I know for sure about the japanese, they Forge really nice swords and wheels and they build ridicules fast and powerful 4 cylinder engines so Im gonna go out on a limb and say its probable its a good esc.

EbbTide 01-02-2017 05:33 PM


Originally Posted by PhilipBGreen (Post 14787176)
lol I just read through it there is a couple people using it and say its working good but thats about it, there's a gentlemen by the name Neil on there who just taught me everything I need to know, basicly sanwa tx/rx 101 I even feel smarter Im glad I red that. Im going to fill out an Affirm app and if all goes well place an order. ;)

there are two things I know for sure about the japanese, they Forge really nice swords and they build ridicules fast and powerful 4 cylinder engines so Im gonna go out on a limb and say its probable a good esc.

Welcome to the Sanwa fanclub haha. And if you do get the Sanwa ESC be sure to update the thread with your experience because I may be the next one to jump ship. I know the new receivers in the ESC are backward compatible with fhss-3 transmitters so I should still be able to use my mx-3x with them.

PhilipBGreen 01-02-2017 05:37 PM


Originally Posted by EbbTide (Post 14787206)
Welcome to the Sanwa fanclub haha. And if you do get the Sanwa ESC be sure to update the thread with your experience because I may be the next one to jump ship. I know the new receivers in the ESC are backward compatible with fhss-3 transmitters so I should still be able to use my mx-3x with them.

Lmao, Why Thank you, and will do...

donny939 01-02-2017 05:56 PM

Since you've already got a protek and if you liked it, try the 130t. I got it for about 80 on a main. I ran in it 8th scale buggy and now a yeti. Can't beat the specs. 355 oz at .08 seconds. Plenty fast for me

RC*PHREAK 01-02-2017 06:03 PM

good call on going TX/RX before servo. you could do amain, but i got my MT-44 for $300 shipped and that came with a 482 and 472 receiver. same deal can be had at rcmart (although i would tend to think shipping might take longer. mine came in a week to the west coast).

PhilipBGreen 01-04-2017 07:31 AM


Originally Posted by donny939 (Post 14787233)
Since you've already got a protek and if you liked it, try the 130t. I got it for about 80 on a main. I ran in it 8th scale buggy and now a yeti. Can't beat the specs. 355 oz at .08 seconds. Plenty fast for me

hey don, yeah protek is great, honestly the best servo I've owned thus far, I even heard the pro's use them, Id prolly be more interested in the 150t if I were to stick with them. thing is a servo is only as fast as its counter parts radio ect ect so I may as well upgrade those items first.

PhilipBGreen 01-04-2017 07:50 AM


Originally Posted by RC*PHREAK (Post 14787246)
good call on going TX/RX before servo. you could do amain, but i got my MT-44 for $300 shipped and that came with a 482 and 472 receiver. same deal can be had at rcmart (although i would tend to think shipping might take longer. mine came in a week to the west coast).

thanks, and thanks for the heads up but Ill most likely be finance'n it through AMain they have a 0% interest deal going on plus its an easier hit on the old bank account and I dont mind making small payments over time, as a young family man I could use the credit and what great way to build it lol :)


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