Help with ESC Selection!
#1
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I went to run my F1 car the other day and it started going completely haywire. Full acceleration front and back, random turning and jerking around until it crashed. I tried a new receiver and controller, along with a couple of new locations and same thing. Also tried adjusting the throttle and steering, nothing. I am guessing the ESC is bad.
I bought the car used, so I don't know that much about the components. It has a generic motor and ESC, so I am having a lot of trouble finding out what type of ESC to pair with the motor. The motor says, "Brushless Motor Racing For 1/10 Scale S3650 4 poles". I am also pretty new to the RC game, so trying to find an ESC is really frustrating.
Can someone recommend an ESC that will pair with this motor or what parameters I need to be searching for? I am running a 2-cell 4000 lipo motor as well. Thanks!
I bought the car used, so I don't know that much about the components. It has a generic motor and ESC, so I am having a lot of trouble finding out what type of ESC to pair with the motor. The motor says, "Brushless Motor Racing For 1/10 Scale S3650 4 poles". I am also pretty new to the RC game, so trying to find an ESC is really frustrating.
Can someone recommend an ESC that will pair with this motor or what parameters I need to be searching for? I am running a 2-cell 4000 lipo motor as well. Thanks!
#2
Could it be this one?
If so, that motor is far away from what belongs into a Formula 1 RC - no wonder it got out of control all the time.
a) It's a 4-pole motor - something usually not used except for 4WD Short Course Trucks (=big and heavy offroaders - so basically the total opposite of an F1 car), and
b) It has 4370 KV - normally people put 21.5T (~1750KV) or even slower 25.5T into F1s and
c) It is sensorless, which can make driving a 2WD a little harder, due to the lack of smooth power delivery on low RPMs.
Even if it is not exactly that same motor, somehow I believe that at least 2 of these 3 point will remain valid.
For alternatives: the Hobbywing ETS legal combo (XR10 Justock ESC and 21.5T Motor) is a popular choice for F1 around here.
If so, that motor is far away from what belongs into a Formula 1 RC - no wonder it got out of control all the time.
a) It's a 4-pole motor - something usually not used except for 4WD Short Course Trucks (=big and heavy offroaders - so basically the total opposite of an F1 car), and
b) It has 4370 KV - normally people put 21.5T (~1750KV) or even slower 25.5T into F1s and
c) It is sensorless, which can make driving a 2WD a little harder, due to the lack of smooth power delivery on low RPMs.
Even if it is not exactly that same motor, somehow I believe that at least 2 of these 3 point will remain valid.
For alternatives: the Hobbywing ETS legal combo (XR10 Justock ESC and 21.5T Motor) is a popular choice for F1 around here.
Last edited by DirkW; 05-14-2016 at 03:44 AM.
#3
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No, it's not that one. It looks similar, except mine is completely black. There is no name on mine, so I think it's just totally generic. I have scoured the internet for pictures of the one that I have and I can't find it.
I have a feeling that the guy before me didn't know what he was doing and just put the biggest of what he could find in there. I am thinking now that I need to replace the motor AND esc, and not just the esc. I will check out what you listed. I was also looking at some of the Associated Reedy motor/ESC combos but not sure what I am looking for. So you recommend the 21.5 turn, and something around 2000kv?
I have a feeling that the guy before me didn't know what he was doing and just put the biggest of what he could find in there. I am thinking now that I need to replace the motor AND esc, and not just the esc. I will check out what you listed. I was also looking at some of the Associated Reedy motor/ESC combos but not sure what I am looking for. So you recommend the 21.5 turn, and something around 2000kv?
#4
You might be right on that feeling.
Moooaaaar power is not always the best idea. And like I said, this combo looks completely wrong to me for an F1 car.
Yes, I think you would indeed do best by getting a new ESC and a new motor. And 21.5T or 25.5T (even slower) is basically what pretty much everyone uses on these cars (on 2S Lipos) - and these should all be way lower than 2000kv.
Moooaaaar power is not always the best idea. And like I said, this combo looks completely wrong to me for an F1 car.Yes, I think you would indeed do best by getting a new ESC and a new motor. And 21.5T or 25.5T (even slower) is basically what pretty much everyone uses on these cars (on 2S Lipos) - and these should all be way lower than 2000kv.
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Sounds good. The car as it sits now has a capacitor mounted next to the ESC and soldered in. With this new setup, will I need the capacitor or can I remove the entire capacitor assembly when I remove the old ESC?
#8
The XR10 Justock comes with a small capacitor of its own, which is already attached to the ESC (soldered on like all the rest of the wires, i.e. battery and motor wires - and all you have to do with these 5 wires is shorten them to your demands and solder a connector to them. Done.). So yes, you can remove the one already installed, along with the old ESC.
#9
No, it's not that one. It looks similar, except mine is completely black. There is no name on mine, so I think it's just totally generic. I have scoured the internet for pictures of the one that I have and I can't find it.
I have a feeling that the guy before me didn't know what he was doing and just put the biggest of what he could find in there. I am thinking now that I need to replace the motor AND esc, and not just the esc. I will check out what you listed. I was also looking at some of the Associated Reedy motor/ESC combos but not sure what I am looking for. So you recommend the 21.5 turn, and something around 2000kv?
I have a feeling that the guy before me didn't know what he was doing and just put the biggest of what he could find in there. I am thinking now that I need to replace the motor AND esc, and not just the esc. I will check out what you listed. I was also looking at some of the Associated Reedy motor/ESC combos but not sure what I am looking for. So you recommend the 21.5 turn, and something around 2000kv?
Reedy Blackbox 800Z / Sonic 540-M3 21.5 Combo
Reedy Blackbox 800Z / Sonic 540-M3 25.5 Combo




