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Old 11-05-2015 | 04:08 PM
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I admit I have not begun a thorough search yet but there is nothing on this forum that I can find.

Used build of a B5m with the Flow ESC and brand new Mx-v and the waterproof servo 92622.

Two things are going on:
1) It appears to be bound but I do not get a blue light as per the manual. It is white. The ESC is set to "blink" and that is happening with a blue light.

2) Servo works and I get some throttle and brake response. But the throttle just goes up a little bit not a full rev up.

Ideas and help would be greatly appreciated.
thanks, John
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Old 11-05-2015 | 05:29 PM
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I raised the TH end points and it now goes fast.

But the light on the Rx stays red not blue which it is supposed to be. I have steering, brake and acceleration.

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Old 11-05-2015 | 08:06 PM
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rebind TX & RX without connecting the servo and ESC so you get solid blue LED. It can take a couple minutes, be patient.

Make sure your trims at center, and if you have EPA on TX set at 100%.

Then install the Servo & ESC Recalibrate neutal, full throttle, and braking.
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Old 11-05-2015 | 08:48 PM
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Thanks Geezatec for your response.

I disconnected the two wires and hooked up the battery pack that came with the Tx.
Ones I let go of the bind button on the Rx and go to the bind button on the Tx, how long to I keep pushing? I have tried this several different ways. If I let go of the Tx button the led glows red and stops flashing. IF I keep pushing it the red light on the Rx flashes rapidly then stops then starts again over and over.

I have tried holding it for longer and shorter times and still no blue light.
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Old 11-05-2015 | 09:08 PM
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Which Airtronics Model TX you using?
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Old 11-05-2015 | 09:36 PM
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It is the MX-V
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Old 11-05-2015 | 09:55 PM
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connect battery switch and batt cage to the RX

Turn on TX

Press bind switch on RX, then turn on RX, LED on RX will flash.

Press bind switch on TX, will turn blue when it binds on TX.

Connect Servo and ESC

Calibrate your ESC per manual Neutral, Full Throttle, and braking.

It should operate the way it should. If not post another on thread. Will answer tomorrow.

Later Good luck!!!
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Old 11-06-2015 | 02:22 AM
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Have you even calibrated your esc? Or haven't you touched the SET button all this time?

The MX-V comes binded from factory, so chances are very slim the transmitter and receiver are not binded.

First things first:

1)Did you buy the Flow new or used?
2)Did you (or previous owner) perform a firmware update?
3)If yes, RESET the Flow by unplugging battery, switch power switch to OFF, plug in battery, NOW PRESS SET BUTTON AND KEEP PRESSING, switch on esc while still pressing the SET button and release after 1 or 2 seconds. Not any longer, or it will go into calibration mode.

4)Now, check settings on your transmitter; is throttle direction set to NORmal and not REVerse? Throttle should be set NORmal.
5)Set EPA throttle and brake both to 100%
6)Set D/R Throttle also to 100%
7)Set throttle EXP on your transmitter to 0. Both throttle and brake to 0.

Ater this it is time to calibrate:

-Turn on transmitter.
-Power up esc by turning the switch.
-Press SET button for a few seconds till you see some lights jumping over on the ESC. Then release.
(The difference between this and the RESETTING procedure is that now you do NOT keep the SET button pressed down while switching power on. Now you just simply switch the esc on, wait a few seconds just to be sure, and then you press SET button and follow the procedure as I'm explaining down here).
-Now , as I said, release SET button (after some lights are blinking), and after releasing press SET button one short time. Now your neutral setting is stored.
-After this, hit full throttle on you transmitter and keep it full throttle.
-While still holding full throttle, press SET button again one more short time. This will store the throttle setting.
-Now, hit full brakes and keep it like that, press SET button while still holding full brakes and your brake setting is stored.

After this the throttle and brake should function properly.

If not, it might be you messed up the binding procedure (by accident) and binding should be done again.


BINDING PROCEDURE, PAGE 9:

http://www.airtronics.net/media/uplo...sers_Guide.pdf

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Old 11-06-2015 | 08:00 AM
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Thanks for you help but I am still not getting a bind. No blue light, just the red one. I am going to wear out the bind buttons!

I think I will give Amain a call and see if their tech has any ideas.

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Old 11-06-2015 | 08:22 AM
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I talked to a tech at Amain and very quickly he thought it was a faulty Rx. Another Rx is on its way.
Let's see what happens.
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Old 11-06-2015 | 12:43 PM
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Maybe so! bad RX. One out of 5000 sets, could happen. MX-V come with 92622.

Govert, I haven't got a Airtronics radio that the system are already binded.

Hear from you next week John!! Everything goes good with it.

Later!!!
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Old 11-06-2015 | 03:44 PM
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Originally Posted by Geezatec

Govert, I haven't got a Airtronics radio that the system are already binded.
I have installed maybe 10 or more MX-V radio sets and they where all factory binded.
However, all the other Sanwa/Airtronics radio sets are not factory binded.

I personally think Sanwa factory binds the MX-V set because of the fact it's a budget radio set and maybe especially suitable for novice users. I think they want to sell it as much as plug and play as possible, maybe to avoid any warranty claims that are just beginners lack of experience and skills, failing to bind their radio set the proper way.

Sounds reasonable to me...
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Old 11-06-2015 | 06:05 PM
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Originally Posted by Govert
I have installed maybe 10 or more MX-V radio sets and they where all factory binded.
However, all the other Sanwa/Airtronics radio sets are not factory binded.

I personally think Sanwa factory binds the MX-V set because of the fact it's a budget radio set and maybe especially suitable for novice users. I think they want to sell it as much as plug and play as possible, maybe to avoid any warranty claims that are just beginners lack of experience and skills, failing to bind their radio set the proper way.

Sounds reasonable to me...
MX-V or top of the Airtronics M8, 11 &12's They do not send them already binded. If they did they would put on the manual to bind the system. Multi model on TX, eack RX is different freq.

We'll see next week that his replacement will work.
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Old 11-06-2015 | 09:11 PM
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Hi Geezatec and Covert.

I borrowed a used Rx from a friend and it took about 6 seconds to bind. I got home and recalibrated as suggested and the buggy runs great.

I checked the manual and could find nothing saying that binding was not needed, only the instructions on how to bind.

For whatever reason the original Rx seems to have been the culprit.
Thanks for taking the time to help me out.

John
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Old 11-06-2015 | 11:17 PM
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//First line in manual For pairing TX to RX. For MX-V

TRANSMITTER AND RECEIVER bINDING The Binding function allows you to bind the transmitter and receiver pair. When new, it is necessary to pair the transmitter and receiver to prevent interference from radio controllers operated by other users. This operation is referred to as 'binding
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