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lpittman 12-18-2013 11:51 AM

MKS Servo Thread
 
Anyone using the MKS DS-9660A+ Servo for 1/10 or 1/12 pan cars?

Any reviews/thoughts on it?

Luke

lpittman 12-19-2013 03:48 PM

Bumpie bump. Anyone?

71schaeffer 04-11-2015 06:34 PM

MKS Servo
 
Hey guys i was wanting your opinion on a servo really quick. I was going to put it in a 1/8 e buggy for steering and didn't know if anyone had an experience with it. MKS HV1230 Titanium Gear High Torque Standard Digital Servo . I think it looks cool and has good specs for the price. I couldn't find a review on it for crap though

rcjunky1 04-11-2015 08:09 PM

From what I hear they're great servos, ask Tim Smith (Tim Smith Racing on facebook) his opinion on them ;)

Dan.J 04-12-2015 05:44 AM

It may be a great servo, I have no idea really. But spec wise it isn't anything special IMO, lots of options for that price with similar specs. I run Radiopost Signature series in my 1/8 stuff and love them, a little more money but can get them on sale for around 120.00 and they are awesome! If you buy the one your looking at let us know what you think after using it, not much info on them. GL

http://www.amain.com/rc-cars/radiopo...p5005s/p265077

crazyfonseca 04-16-2015 03:10 AM

Those are great servos!

Also HBL599 and HBL575 are the best I use so far!

lyons238 06-30-2016 06:06 AM

Anyone run MKS HBL575 X6 low pro servo?
 
SO I have an XRAY XB2 and XB4. I've had terrible luck with servos, mainly Spektrum and Futaba.

So for my XB4 I spent $180 and got the Hitec 9360, in which it is amazing. It is incredibly fast, has lots of torque, brushless motor, unique gear materials with titanium as well. It performs extremely well and has held up great so far. Only problem (for the XB2) is, is that it's a little larger as far as depth goes, it's the same or larger from mounting ears, to output gear as the Savox 1258tg.

So I had to find a unit that I could use in my XB2 that was similarly durable and performance wise as the Hitec 9360. The only low pro servo I found with similar specs was the MKS X6 HBL575 low pro servo. It has a lot of torque for a low pro, it is extremely fast .06 sec at 7.4v, and it's brushless with full metal/titanium gears.

Does anyone have any real world experience with the MKS? Will it perform and be durable as my Hitec 9360 is? I'm excited to put it to use, it should be delivered tomorrow.

Socket 06-30-2016 06:07 AM

Someone much more knowledgable than me will answer this better, but I believe MKS are the same as the protek servos, and are made by Highest. I believe Reedys are the same.

Tim3 06-30-2016 06:28 AM

I have two of these servos installed in a AJ Laser 73" rc plane used for ailerons. I realy like them. Smooth, strong, fast. I wouldn't hesitate using them in your car. Hope this helps.
If I remember, I paid around 149$ plus tax.
Tim

lyons238 06-30-2016 06:33 AM


Originally Posted by Socket (Post 14585896)
Someone much more knowledgable than me will answer this better, but I believe MKS are the same as the protek servos, and are made by Highest. I believe Reedys are the same.

Can anyone confirm/deny this?


Originally Posted by Tim3 (Post 14585914)
I have two of these servos installed in a AJ Laser 73" rc plane used for ailerons. I realy like them. Smooth, strong, fast. I wouldn't hesitate using them in your car. Hope this helps.
If I remember, I paid around 149$ plus tax.
Tim

I appreciate the opinion! I just hope it holds up to some abuse, you know how racing goes, if you don't make a mistake on your own, someone is taking you into a pipe etc...I'm sick of blowing out servos. Never had any problems with my old trusty Savox 1258tg. Switched to a Futaba brushless and a Spektrum low pro and broke both of them quickly.

I would love to run the Hitec, but it just doesnt make sense as it doesn't fit very well, even though I could get it to work, but the steering link would not be totally parallel. Plus the added weight up front, wont be a good thing when running the XB2 CE on clay.

avaldes 06-30-2016 09:23 AM

MKS is an OEM servo manufacturer located in Taiwan. Highest is also an OEM but located in Korea.

I fly gliders competitively and MKS came on the scene about 8 years ago when they introduced a very high quality aluminum case, BB servo. They are getting popular in all forms of RC airplanes and helicopters. For good reason, they are making a good product.

There are lots of knock-offs now that are made in China, KST, Turnigy, Bluebird. So far MKS seems to be doing very well in their servo development. It wouldn't surprise me if the car servos are excellent.

belewis01 06-30-2016 09:43 AM

Yep - another glider guider here and 2nd the previous post. Have flown for years with the US Distributor ( Thomas Cooke ) and he has been promoting the car line of servos. They have mostly been going into the nitro and 1/5th scale cars, but are starting to get more popular in 1/10th scale sizes.

I think you'll like the servo, probably a bit pricey, but definitely high end gear.

Bruce

Tim3 06-30-2016 10:15 AM

So you have this ordered and it comes tomorrow?
Let us know how you like it and after run.


HBL575SL (0.07 sec/60° - 233.31 oz/in @8.2V)

HBL575SL
Details

SKU MKS-HBL575SL
Dead Band 0.0008ms (Default)
Control System +Pulse Width Control
Working Frequence 1520μs / 333hz
Operating Voltage 3.5 ~ 8.4 Volts
Operating Temperature Range -10 to + 60 Degree C
Operating Speed (6V) 0.10 sec/60° degrees at no load
Operating Speed (7.4V) 0.08 sec/60° degrees at no load
Operating Speed (8.4V) 0.07sec/60° degrees at no load
Stall Torque (6V) 138.87 oz/in (18 kg/cm)
Stall Torque (7.4V) 184.70 oz/in (22 kg/cm)
Stall Torque (8.4V) 233.31 oz/in (24kg/cm)
Motor Type Brushless Motor
Potentiometer Drive Indirect Drive
Bearing Type 12x8 mm Double bearings
Gear Type Chrome-Titanium alloy gear
Dimensions 40 x 20 x 23.1 mm
Weight 53.51 g

lyons238 06-30-2016 12:00 PM


Originally Posted by Tim3 (Post 14586169)
So you have this ordered and it comes tomorrow?
Let us know how you like it and after run.


HBL575SL (0.07 sec/60° - 233.31 oz/in @8.2V)

HBL575SL
Details

SKU MKS-HBL575SL
Dead Band 0.0008ms (Default)
Control System +Pulse Width Control
Working Frequence 1520μs / 333hz
Operating Voltage 3.5 ~ 8.4 Volts
Operating Temperature Range -10 to + 60 Degree C
Operating Speed (6V) 0.10 sec/60° degrees at no load
Operating Speed (7.4V) 0.08 sec/60° degrees at no load
Operating Speed (8.4V) 0.07sec/60° degrees at no load
Stall Torque (6V) 138.87 oz/in (18 kg/cm)
Stall Torque (7.4V) 184.70 oz/in (22 kg/cm)
Stall Torque (8.4V) 233.31 oz/in (24kg/cm)
Motor Type Brushless Motor
Potentiometer Drive Indirect Drive
Bearing Type 12x8 mm Double bearings
Gear Type Chrome-Titanium alloy gear
Dimensions 40 x 20 x 23.1 mm
Weight 53.51 g

Thanks guys!

And yes, that's the one. Except Amainhobbies has the specs wrong. i thought it was going to do .08 sec at 6v. Does anyone know if .10 should be fast enough for 2wd buggy racing? All my servos have been under .1. Also, how many ran 7.4v over 6v? I have a Tekin RSX ESC.

avaldes 06-30-2016 10:54 PM

Here are the specs straight from the horses mouth:

http://www.mksservosusa.com/product....&cat=27&page=1

I'm running 7.4V out of my Tekin RSX. Though I am running Futaba brushless servos.

Socket 07-01-2016 07:14 AM

What's the warranty like on MKS?

lyons238 07-05-2016 06:16 AM

So I got the servo installed and ran it at 7.4 volts. Wow this thing is smooth, quiet, fast, and strong! Not a single hiccup, so far. I think this is my new favorite low pro servo!!

For full size I still prefer the Hitec 9630, but this thing rocks for a low pro! Very happy with my choice. To give you guys some perspective. This thing performs similar to my Spektrum S6270, which is the smoothest and fastest servo I have ever used. Unfortunately the durability is just not there. This MKS servo feels just as smooth and fast, but you can tell it's much more beefy and is way harder to turn by hand than the Spektrum.

So far, I would recommend this servo to anyone.

MachineMan12 12-27-2016 08:12 PM

MKS servo screw size?
 
I recently picked up an MKS ds1220 for my savage and have been impressed with the performance so far. But I have stripped out the screw that holds down the servo horn. I cannot find the size of this screw as it isn't a m3 or m2.5.

Does anyone know what screw size MKS uses for their servo horns?

MachineMan12 12-30-2016 06:25 PM

Contacted MKS and they said all their servos use either 3mm or 2.5mm screws. So 2.5 it is!

haplm 03-19-2017 01:41 PM

I know I'm digging an old thread but...

I have Spektrum S6270, and I need to confirm lyons238's observation. It is a a super fast servo, but while still being pretty new, it started shaking when steering is in neutral position. It doesn't do it all the time, but I'm pretty sure that it is only matter of time before it will.

So, I'm looking for replacement, and I really like MKS's HBL575SL specs. Is there more people who can share some opinion about this servo? Thanks!

DesertRat 01-02-2018 10:12 PM

MKS Mini Servo Dead On Arrival
 
I am the new owner of an MKS DS8910a mini servo ($75) that arrived at my house in the mail completely non functional. Hilariously, it even came with a sticker that says "Passed Inspection" on it.

Now I know, shit happens, so I suspect that I will soon have another post to make regarding their customer service.

Brand new servo goes back in the box, 10 year old JR Z3650 coming out of retirement for at least one more go.


UPDATE:

I received the email and offer from MKS USA to exchange this servo for another model. The mistake here was two parts, the DS8910a does not function with a normal radio, but needs very specific input from a gyro to function, and while this is hinted at in the listed refresh rate it is not explicitly stated, so I ordered the wrong piece.

That being said, I have opted not to use this servo or one like it for a different reason, namely that it is a very large servo for being a "mini servo", and I think that there are better options.

mlax 01-02-2018 10:16 PM

And the purpose of this thread is what exactly?

DesertRat 01-03-2018 10:17 AM


Originally Posted by mlax (Post 15119405)
And the purpose of this thread is what exactly?

Well I thought it may have a small chance of keeping someone else from buying a new servo, assembling their pan car around it, then plugging it in and wondering why it doesn't work. It may also be the beginning of a saga to partially explore the MKS customer service process.

1/8 IC Fan 01-03-2018 10:24 AM

Dont we have a few MKS Drivers here in the US? Perhaps you can hit them up on FB? Maybe they can lend some insight or help.

http://www.mksservosusa.com/

Was that where you got them from?

DesertRat 01-03-2018 10:38 AM


Originally Posted by 1/8 IC Fan (Post 15119854)
Dont we have a few MKS Drivers here in the US? Perhaps you can hit them up on FB? Maybe they can lend some insight or help.

MKS Servos USA

Was that where you got them from?

That is exactly who I ordered it from, and who I contacted about my issue. I am trying to do this right, and give MKS a chance to rectify this.

1/8 IC Fan 01-03-2018 10:43 AM

Not sure, as I had been looking to switch servo brands too. I know Ryan Maifield runs them, maybe hit him up on FB?

Amain carries them too, so maybe contact them for a contact at MKS Usa?

belewis01 01-03-2018 10:19 PM

MKS will come through - the main guy for MKS US is at a show this weekend - he's probably traveling about now for the show which starts Friday.

MKS USA made it's name in airplanes, primarily high dollar contest sailplanes before expanding into cars and helicopters. We flew with Thomas Cooke of MKS USA for many years and I'm sure Thomas will make it right...... please don't drag MKS through the dirt without giving him a chance to respond.

Bruce

Roelof 01-04-2018 12:59 PM


Originally Posted by DesertRat (Post 15119846)
Well I thought it may have a small chance of keeping someone else from buying a new servo, assembling their pan car around it, then plugging it in and wondering why it doesn't work. It may also be the beginning of a saga to partially explore the MKS customer service process.

So you buy one servo, it seems it does not work so all servo's of that brand are crap?

With all electronic devices this can happen, even if they are tested in the factory. Travel vibrations, hot/cold and even moisture can make a difference from factory to your home.
Televisions, cars, washing machine etc. That is why there is a warranty. Send it back and ask a new one and be happy with it.

DesertRat 01-05-2018 09:20 AM


Originally Posted by Roelof (Post 15120885)
So you buy one servo, it seems it does not work so all servo's of that brand are crap?

With all electronic devices this can happen, even if they are tested in the factory. Travel vibrations, hot/cold and even moisture can make a difference from factory to your home.
Televisions, cars, washing machine etc. That is why there is a warranty. Send it back and ask a new one and be happy with it.

Well, they're batting 0 for 1 here and in the 3 days since I contacted them about getting some instruction on how best to do this because their website has no warranty info. They have not responded either to my email sent to their sales email account OR to the requests for service sent through the MKS USA website where I bought the servo. The only warranty info I have been able to find online is from their asia site and its a form to print out (it's written in in Chinese with the English parts courtesy of Google Translate) and fill out by hand to include in a box with the servo when you ship it back to Taiwan. I know shit happens, but with each passing day my opinion of my purchase is not getting better.

If vibrations, ambient heat, or cold (hell, that sounds a lot like racing conditions) can result in this thing being DOA in a foam padded box I should count my blessings, at least it didn't fail turning into the sweeper at 50 miles per hour.

DesertRat 01-10-2018 08:28 AM

MKS Servos Part 2: The Empire Strikes Hack.

I received an email telling me to turn the pulse rate of my gyro down to 760. The servo is not plugged into a gyro, but an airtronics receiver. I never said that it was plugged into a gyro. They gave me their number so I guess I have to call them.

You bought our servo.
It don't work for shit, see
So here's our number
So call us maybe.

jdearhart 01-11-2018 11:02 AM


Originally Posted by DesertRat (Post 15126046)
MKS Servos Part 2: The Empire Strikes Hack.

I received an email telling me to turn the pulse rate of my gyro down to 760. The servo is not plugged into a gyro, but an airtronics receiver. I never said that it was plugged into a gyro. They gave me their number so I guess I have to call them.

You bought our servo.
It don't work for shit, see
So here's our number
So call us maybe.

I'm not sure what's worse? The fact that you made a reference to that terrible song or the fact that I got it and now the song is stuck in my head! :lol:

suzukipro 01-12-2018 07:37 AM

My MKS HBL599 has developed a case of the shakes and is less than a year old running it in a EB48 SL. I too am unable to find any warranty info on MKS, nothing on their web site and have been waiting for about 5 days now to get a response from their "contact us".

Anyone have any contacts at MKS?

belewis01 01-12-2018 08:08 PM


Originally Posted by suzukipro (Post 15127919)
My MKS HBL599 has developed a case of the shakes and is less than a year old running it in a EB48 SL. I too am unable to find any warranty info on MKS, nothing on their web site and have been waiting for about 5 days now to get a response from their "contact us".

Anyone have any contacts at MKS?

Eric - PM'd you a contact

Bruce

belewis01 01-12-2018 08:31 PM


Originally Posted by DesertRat (Post 15126046)
MKS Servos Part 2: The Empire Strikes Hack.

I received an email telling me to turn the pulse rate of my gyro down to 760. The servo is not plugged into a gyro, but an airtronics receiver. I never said that it was plugged into a gyro. They gave me their number so I guess I have to call them.

You bought our servo.
It don't work for shit, see
So here's our number
So call us maybe.

So, I reached out to Thomas Cooke at MKS USA this morning and sent him a link to this thread. As I stated earlier, I used to fly RC sailplanes with Thomas and know him fairly well. Thomas asked me to post a reply for him as he does not have an account here.

Thomas said he has replied to your email - if you don't get it, PM me and I will get you his personal email. The servo you bought is a tail servo for helicopters and will only work with a gyro. Contact Thomas to work out an exchange for a servo that will work for RC cars.

Bruce

mlax 01-15-2018 06:58 AM

lol. This thread turned into a direction I did not expect.

urnotevenwrg2 01-15-2018 07:16 AM

You would think there would be some info on their site stating that this servo needs to be plugged into a gyro to work.

DesertRat

This servo only has 36 oz/in of torque. In what type of vehicle were you planning on using this servo?

sparksy 01-15-2018 05:28 PM


Originally Posted by mlax (Post 15130254)
lol. This thread turned into a direction I did not expect.


I did have a giggle.

suzukipro 01-21-2018 09:20 AM


Originally Posted by suzukipro (Post 15127919)
My MKS HBL599 has developed a case of the shakes and is less than a year old running it in a EB48 SL. I too am unable to find any warranty info on MKS, nothing on their web site and have been waiting for about 5 days now to get a response from their "contact us".

Anyone have any contacts at MKS?

Props to Thomas at MKS, he contacted me and helped me resolve my issue.

sparksy 01-23-2018 12:28 AM


Originally Posted by suzukipro (Post 15135706)
Props to Thomas at MKS, he contacted me and helped me resolve my issue.


Happy with that.

What about the OP? Did you get your problem sorted?

Newk 03-13-2019 05:01 AM

MKS X5 HBL550
 
Anyone else using these servos? I put some in a TLR 8ight-T 4.0 and so far they are awesome. Just wondering if anyone else is running them in there 1/8 buggies and truggies and how they are holding up and how they like them.
(here's the specs)

HBL550 X5 Digital Brushless Ultra Speed High Voltage Servo, with Alloy Gears, by MKS

  • Superior Holding Torque
  • High Quality Brushless Motor
  • Precise and Durable Alloy Gear
  • Water and Dust Resistant
  • Dimensions: 40.5x20.5x26.4mm
  • Weight: 59.83 g
  • Torque:
    • 144 oz/in @6.0V
    • 500 oz/in @7.4V
    • 527 oz/in @8.2V
  • Speed:
    • 0.117s @6.0V
    • 0.094s @7.4V
    • 0.085s @8.2V


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