Best post ever!

This response is perfect for my question.....I've had RC's but im just beginning to explore racing and my question is....Are people upgrading their RTR transmitters for the features a high end radio provides or because the RTR's are really that inferior? For a person who races on a regular basis, is an upgrade REALLY necessary and are you at that much of a disadvantage if you dont upgrade? Thx

This thread is lol. Fan boys on both sides with their knickers in a knot. If you buy your own gear then you deserve an opinion even if it is on the fan boy side of the fence. Pros are paid users so that is why you see lots of off road guys running spektrum. Has Maifeild switched to spektrum since his losi switch. Be interesting to see his opinion as it didn't stop him winning 2 classes at cactus.

I think people get better and upgrading a radio can make a big difference if it is ergonomically better than the previous radio. Ive been bashing/racing for 10 years and had my fair share of crappy equipment. I've only just upgraded to the M12 and it is ergonomically better than the M11 I had for 5 years so I feel like I got faster with it. Placebo maybe! 10 years ago I used a dx2 and dx3 for many years bashing away with nonissue til I took my cars to the racetrack. Glitch busters and bigger caps were installed but crashed cars ended up costing races. I switched to a KO EX5ur as a mate used one and it felt good in the hand for a budget radio. Same performance as dx3 but no glitching.

I took that to a bigger event and had issues there so switched to the Sanwa M11X as this was the most common radio at this event. This radio served me well for 5 years with zero issue. Yes they are expensive to buy but Higher end radios hold their value better. I sold it for 1/3rd what I paid new and got 5 years out of it. The guy I sold it to loves it and he switched from a you guessed it, dx4r! He has placebo effect as well you see.

I used to joke that spektrum users deserved a handicap parking spot at the track. What am I saying used to, I still make that joke :D

neither I run Radiopost only. fastest best radio on the market..spectrum slow .. http://www.hfdist.com/

If you don't think an M12 or other high end radio benefits you, don't buy one. Congratulations, you just saved 400 dollars.

And let them who believe they can benefit from the ultra low latency times and features, and have the cash, buy a high end radio.

The peculiar observation when reading the threads for the mid range radios is the sometimes lengthy discussions where users try to persuade each other that the mid range radio they bought actually is almost as good as the high end radio of the same brand.

Like the MT4/MT4S thread, some people are very keen to persuade themselves that it is actually just as good as the M12.

Like:
The M12 is big, the MT4 is small, one point to the MT4. The M12 has an excessive amount of features, you get what you need in the MT4 and only pay for that, one point to the MT4. The M12 is faster than the MT4, but you pay for a difference that only a hyper drugged fly can feel, one point to the MT4 etc.

In the end it just sounds like an envious babble of words.

Me and my son uses the M12, and of course, it is superb!

The numbers beg to differ, the Radiopost has the same minimum latency as the DX4R.

https://farm9.staticflickr.com/8626/...ebf58fc9_o.jpg

Why are there so many "n/a" in the "FR Rate Latency" column for radios where the latency numbers are well known?

Seems more like Radiopost intentionally left out the latency numbers for competing radios.

And the figures seems to be factory numbers, there are many tests on the net that compare the actual, average latency times of the radios. And they sometimes are a lot different than the factory numbers, especially for the cheaper radios.

The chart was put together for a thread on UltimateRC by BillDeLong who is a member on here too. I believe he only used frame rates that were included in the manufacturer specs.

Just for the record - these are only the minimal possible latencie based on the frequency of the signal coming out of the receiver. There are many factors which would slow the system but it NEVER could be faster than indicated in this column.

Isn't that what I write in the last section?

"And the figures seems to be factory numbers, there are many tests on the net that compare the actual, average latency times of the radios. And they sometimes are a lot different than the factory numbers, especially for the cheaper radios."

Funny how that list says the DX4R is not telemetry because I have been using it on my Revo since I bought the radio.

And if any of you guys think that you can tell the difference between 1ms and 5.5ms I think you are crazy. I cant even tell the difference between 11ms and 5.5ms in my 17.5 buggy. That is with the high speed SR2000 receiver and a Spektrum S6070 servo.

I have tried many different radios, ranging from the newest models and older models, and while I liked the feel of my DX3S I have grown into the DX4R and absolutely love it. The menu is so much easier to use than the Futaba 4PX, and for me it is much more comfortable to hold. When helping someone to choose a radio system I always ask them how much they are looking to spend, then I tell them to hold the radio in their hands. Find the best you can in your price range and one that feels the most comfortable. To me Futaba feels cheap. Maybe its the all plastic handle compared to Spektrums rubber grips? But that is my opinion, until you buy my radios for me nobody has the right to tell me my opinion is right or wrong. I did have a spring fail in my DX4R, but they sent me a free one and a back up to keep in my pit box and its easily changed, no big deal in my eyes.

There are a lot of Spektrums on our drivers stand during a race night. A couple guys switched from futaba to spektrum and from spektrum to futaba. Some happy with their choices, some not. I know of one guy who switched to spektrum and was instantly faster. He said he just likes the feel of the Spektrum better.

Preference, that's all it is. Just like chosing TLR over AE or Kyosho.

To you the Futaba 4PX feels cheap ?? And the Spektrum feels premium??

O...K!

Like I said. And did I ever say premium? In fact did I ever say that the spektrum feels better? No, I said the Futaba feels cheap. This here is the problem with fanboys. You automatically attack someone that has an opinion that differs from your own. I bought a Spektrum because it is what I wanted, not because I care what others tell me is better than the rest. Who are you to discredit or question my opinion?

Well, if you do not like to get your opinion questioned, you should not post it in a forum.

Listen I have used almost all radios on the market. I hated them all. seemed like they where not insync with me until I won a Radiopost and used it..and yes I can tell the difference in 1ms and 5.5ms or 5.2ms..some people can be faster than a rattle snake strikes other just DIE.. I have never ever seen a podium racer with a $50 radio ever..at a ROAR or ifmar event.