Reverse delay on brushless esc's
 

Does anyone know of of any brushless esc's that have an adjustable reverse delay or will go into reverse with a double tap on the trigger without having to wait for car to reach a complete stop first?

I'll be looking to run a sensored 8.5t

I brought my 1st brushless setup, a speed passion combo and reverse delay is ridiculous aswell as lipo cut off will not work. Have tried all types of firmwares and settings.

The Tekin RS I used to have had delayed reverse. I'm sure the new Gen 2 RS also has it.

Was it a "double tap" to get into reverse and it also had a delay?

Basically i've only just dug out my old losi xx-t thats been in storage 15 years. I was using a novak rooster back in the day. This would brake for 3 seconds and then kick into reverse, no waiting for it to reach a complete stop first.

I want a esc brushless setup that has similar brake/reverse characteristics as the old rooster

It was a double tap I believe. It has been over a year since I had it though, so hopefully somebody else can chime in.

Tekin is a delay only. Not a double tap. I think it's the Orion that is double tap.

Do you recall how long the delay is?

I think on Tekin the delay is 3 seconds, or you can turn the delay off.

The delay is a full one second in neutral before reverse will engage. If you try to engage before the one second is complete it will restart that timer. It can feel like an eternity, but remember the ESC has to see the neutral signal which can take a brief moment after you have let go of the trigger.

Thats very interesting about the timer restarting. That maybe my problem with my speed passion esc. Do you know of any esc's that have no delay?

I 95% the Castle MMP is a double-tap only.

The orion and most other china hobby wing clones are very iffy on the reverse, The 2 orions and 1 hobby king clone, even my LRP esc, have been poor to reverse at best.

The delay can be turned off on Orion pro's but that is "crawler" mode so there is no brake. With the Orion if the car is stopped there is no delay when you move the trigger to reverse. However if it's moving forward then it brakes until it is stopped then goes into reverse.
That delay is standard to help prevent people from ruining their drivetrain. I find it irratating sometimes when I can't get it when I want it or it comes on when I don't want. But that is just learning how to work it correctly and using some patience.

Thanks for that. I will look into orion's. I don't mind it coming to a complete stop first, I just don't want to have the car sitting there for 3 seconds in "neutral" before it finally decides its ok to go reverse

the Viper vtx10 series has a little bit of a lag, but runs the car in reverse very nicely.

why would you want it to go into reverse before it stopped??! that is a good way to put a lot of strain on the motor and to start stripping gears.

Im keen for car to stop first. I just want to find an esc that instantly goes into reverse after it stops. the esc i have now, speed passion with sensored motor sits there in neutral for about 3 seconds before finally deciding to move into reverse. Im a backyard basher not racer

Viper Copperhead-R has delay (until stop). You can apply the brake several times in a row, it won't reverse until after the motor is fully stopped. Works the same in both directions.
Hobbywing WP-SC8 and, by association, SCT Pro have double tap reverse. You only get to brake once, next is reverse. I, personally, don't like this. It also doesn't have reverse to forward braking - instant switch to forward.

So the hobbywing WP-SC8 and SCT Pro would actualy slam into reverse while moving foward If you're not carefull?

I also hate the delay on the reverse, the best way to engage the reverse would be brake -> stop -> immediate reverse possible

the most annoying thing is that if you don't wait enough the timer of the delay will restart and so on.. it can get very frustrating because sometimes you need to reverse QUICK (to avoid a car on the track for example)

That would be the best way for sure. There must be atleast 1 brushless esc out there that does this?

Yup. Happens to me quite a bit. But I'm a basher, and it doesn't bother me much.

Sounds good to me I mite have to buy the sct pro. Thanks for confirming that

It is very annoying waiting for the RS to finally engage reverse. I would like to see some way to change it.

Every hobbywing Ive owned had elayed reverse

Guys we hear what you're all asking for. A reverse delay after seeing perhaps 0-100 rpm is doable.

Might be in a future software update.

Randy, has there been any movement on this?

Just a bump to this thread.

Randy - if you're on, would love to hear if there has been any movement on this issue over at Tekin. A buddy and I that hang out at the track on practice days (when reverse is allowed) are getting fed up with delays, and particularly the timer that resets every time you try to reverse and we're starting to look into alternatives.

The solution that you mention above (allow reverse if RPMs are less than 100), or allowing us to programming the amount of reverse delay, or allowing reverse once the car has come to a stop all seem like good ideas. The one thing that I guess you have to be careful about is if you are driving offroad and adjusting your cars altitude in the air, you wouldn't want the tires suddenly going backwards.

Thats what I call listening to yoru customers, just downloaded firmware 255 to my RS Gen 2 , put it on Fw with Reverse delay and theres now a area at the bottom of the throttle tab in hotwire where you can set the amount of time of the reverse delay, .25 seconds is working nicely, cause the car has to come to a complete stop first anyways, leave it in neutral for a qtr of a second and goes right into reverse. nice , thanks Randy

also digging the new torque adjustability setting

So psyched; thank you for doing this!

So I thought this made my day...heck week... heck maybe even my month! Why? Because the fact that you have to wait until FOREVER to reverse on a Tekin ESC is pathetic. I actually ended up buying Speed Passions and other ESC where the reverse delay isn't as offensive (yes, the reverse delay on the Tekin is OFFENSIVE).

So needless to say, as soon as I saw this post, I ran to my man cave and fired up my Hotwire to download version 255...

Did it work!@? HELL NO! It didn't work for my version of RS and RS Pro (black case). How annoying. These ESC's have been perfectly fine and I really like them except for the reverse delay. So it doesn't work for the older ESC's.

While we're at it complaining, when will Tekin revise the user interface on the Hotwire? Don't they know that laptop and tablet screens nowadays are no longer 800 x 600? We're into 1920 x 1080... Welcome to 2016!!! You need a freakin' magnifying glass to be able to see what you're doing since the Hotwire interface is so small. Doesn't Tekin know that most of the buyers of these products are people who tend to be older (and with money) which means their eyes aren't as good?

Lastly, the TABS on the user interface... do we really need them? Why not just have all the settings visible on one screen? Again, we have a lot more pixels on the screen to take advantage of this. Does Tekin know how much of a PITA it is to go back and forth between TABS to check on settings? How about removing the TABS, organize all the settings all on one BIG page that fills the entire screen?