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mtpocketsracing 04-20-2014 07:19 AM

My Losi 810 came with a spektrum radio. I used to have a lot of trouble with it until I noticed inside the receiver had dirt and moisture. And some of the traces (wires on a circuit board) had corrosion build up connecting some of them together. After cleaning the board by scraping it with a hobby knife and electronics cleaner it's been working a lot better. No more run away car. That was 18 months ago. But it still has a glitch when I give it throttle the steering servo moves a few degrees both ways vary rapidly. Like what I would call a glitch issue. Using a losi servo for throttle and a spektrum for steering.

Having said that I have a suspicion most of the issues lie in the receivers from contaminants.

King DORK 04-20-2014 07:30 AM

On my 3rd Spektrum radio since the original DX3 came out. Never an issue of any sort with any of them, nitro or electric, regardless of any combination of electronics. I'm lucky. My Spektrum "teammates" give me all the inside information :lol:. JK, Don't have Spektrum "teammates". Until these radios screw me I'll continue to support the brand. My DX3R Pro is unquestionably the most comfortable radio of any I've held, any I must be old and dumb because I can't notice the .0000000000001 (or whatever) that all the Spektrum haters insist that they can "feel" that makes every other radio light years faster, so much that they're hitting the pipes from turning in too soon for the 180 at the end of the straight before they ever get on the straight :rolleyes:.

Yosh70 04-20-2014 11:08 AM


Originally Posted by Salkin (Post 13198692)
So Spektrum users are more prone to drop, water, clip their tx, use bad batteries etc.?

That statement has got to be in the running for one of the most ignorant posts I've read. Glad you could join this forum and spread your wealth of knowledge.

Good job.

dan_vector 04-20-2014 11:50 AM


Originally Posted by Yosh70 (Post 13199660)
That statement has got to be in the running for one of the most ignorant posts I've read. Glad you could join this forum and spread your wealth of knowledge.

Good job.

:nod:
:lol::lol::lol:

Salkin 04-20-2014 12:53 PM


Originally Posted by Yosh70 (Post 13199660)
That statement has got to be in the running for one of the most ignorant posts I've read. Glad you could join this forum and spread your wealth of knowledge.

Good job.

Dear Yosh70, I understood your reply as if you argued that some (or many) of the errors reported from Spektrum users were due to "human errors" like exposure to water, clipping of antenna tips etc. And that people "forgot" to mention this in their criticism of a Spektrum radio. In short unfair criticism.

Correct?

If yes, I just argued that I don't think that Spektrum users have a higher rate of "human errors" than Sanwa, Futaba, Kopropro etc. users.

If accepted, then the high rate of Spektrum users reporting glitches, brownouts etc. can't be due to these causes, because, theoretically, other radio brands would be equally "burdened" by these kind of human errors.

So the high rate of Spektrum users reporting problems must to some degree tell a story of a brand with a higher rate of such problems (not caused by human errors).

Don't know if that made it any clearer?

NFA Fabrication 04-20-2014 01:06 PM

I recently purchased a Futaba 4PLS, and have pretty much regretted it right from the start. Futaba doesn't even know the proper binding procedure for the receivers (I have been dealing with them on this for months, the manual does not match the controllers menus). I usually just have to screw around with the controller and receiver until I get lucky and they bind. And the menu selection joystick is so cheap, it feels strait up broken out of the box. I wish I had gone with Spektrum. I only fly my planes on Spektrum, and the quality difference is insane. Futaba used to be a premium name brand too...

NFA Fabrication 04-20-2014 01:10 PM


Originally Posted by Yosh70 (Post 13199660)
That statement has got to be in the running for one of the most ignorant posts I've read. Glad you could join this forum and spread your wealth of knowledge.

Good job.

I thought he made a very logical point myself...

Yosh70 04-20-2014 01:38 PM


Originally Posted by Salkin (Post 13199849)

If yes, I just argued that I don't think that Spektrum users have a higher rate of "human errors" than Sanwa, Futaba, Kopropro etc. users.

Do you think that if you asked 100 RC users what brand of Tx they are using, you would get an equal amount of each brand? Spektrum would heavily weigh in more than the other brands IMO. You have to remember they've been around a long time, they supply the radios in numerous RTR's and their transmitters are #1 in the flying crowd as well.

So for example if you have 10 Spektrum users, 3 Sanwa's, 2 Futaba and 1 KO, there would be a greater chance someone posting a Spektrum issue than the other three.

Do you not agree?

Salkin 04-20-2014 02:03 PM


Originally Posted by Yosh70 (Post 13199909)
Do you think that if you asked 100 RC users what brand of Tx they are using, you would get an equal amount of each brand? Spektrum would heavily weigh in more than the other brands IMO. You have to remember they've been around a long time, they supply the radios in numerous RTR's and their transmitters are #1 in the flying crowd as well.

So for example if you have 10 Spektrum users, 3 Sanwa's, 2 Futaba and 1 KO, there would be a greater chance someone posting a Spektrum issue than the other three.

Do you not agree?

I agree.

But just to get it absolutely clear. You think that Spektrum radios/receivers do NOT have more problems with range, brown outs etc. than other radios, measured in percentage of sold units (eliminating the vast quantites of Spektrums sold).

I don't know the sales statistics, but do you know that Spektrums are sold in such superior numbers than Sanwa/Airtronic and Futaba. Those brands have low and mid range radios also, probably sold in great numbers as well.

NFA Fabrication 04-20-2014 02:36 PM

Disregard, accidental double post, won't let me delete.

NFA Fabrication 04-20-2014 02:38 PM

I rarely see any Futaba radios where i fly, or at the track these days. next to none. When I brought my 4PLS to the track last time, people looked at it like it was from outer space, they said they rarely see Any Futaba stuff in there. Here is a video of the "Quality" of a brand new Futaba radio these days:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yCpF8dlb7fQ

Salkin 04-20-2014 02:55 PM


Originally Posted by NFA Fabrication (Post 13200011)
I rarely see any Futaba radios where i fly, or at the track these days. next to none. When I brought my 4PLS to the track last time, people looked at it like it was from outer space, they said they rarely see Any Futaba stuff in there. Here is a video of the "Quality" of a brand new Futaba radio these days:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yCpF8dlb7fQ

Well, I'm no Sanwa/Futaba representative, have no stocks in the companies, no family members working there.

I have no perosnal interest in talking negatively about Spektrum.

I have tried several Spektrums and have had problems with them all.

I have Sanwa and have no problems at all. Have had several of them (mid and high range radios).

At my track, no one using Sanwa/Futaba have any glitch problems.

Some are using Spektrum with no issues, others have bought a Sanwa/Futaba/KO because of issues with Spektrums.

If people want to buy a Spektrum, well then just do so.

If people ask other people what to buy, they get an opinion. Not a scientific correct answer, but (in many cases) an subjective opinion.

But in my case, with my personal experience (from myself and other fellow racers) and from what I read on RC forums (international and national), if I had to give someone buying a new radio an advice, it would be not to buy a Spektrum. In my non scientific context, buying a non Spektrum would equal a less chance of ending up with range and signal loss issues.

Nickerz 04-22-2014 12:11 PM

This thread is very interesting! I have major glitch issues with my TC6.1 and was using a FlySky GT3C. Put a glitch buster on it and it got a little better but car still glitched. However, I don't have glitching issues with 2 other cars of mine.

Now I'm looking to buy a new radio and was thinking of getting a Spektrum DX3C, especially b/c I have a 15% off coupon that expires at the end of this month. I don't want an expensive radio but I just looked at the Airtronics MT-4 and it looks good.

So if I buy a Futaba or Airtronics radio, can I buy cheap receivers (i.e., Orange) for my other two cars that I don't race?

I don't want glitching issues again as it has cost me money buying new parts b/c the car goes full throttle when it gets 25 feet out or less. So I really need a good radio but I don't want to break the bank! The DX3C is $100 or $85 with my coupon but now I'm not so sure this will fix my problem after reading through this thread.

Salkin 04-22-2014 12:22 PM


Originally Posted by Nickerz (Post 13205482)
This thread is very interesting! I have major glitch issues with my TC6.1 and was using a FlySky GT3C. Put a glitch buster on it and it got a little better but car still glitched. However, I don't have glitching issues with 2 other cars of mine.

Now I'm looking to buy a new radio and was thinking of getting a Spektrum DX3C, especially b/c I have a 15% off coupon that expires at the end of this month. I don't want an expensive radio but I just looked at the Airtronics MT-4 and it looks good.

So if I buy a Futaba or Airtronics radio, can I buy cheap receivers (i.e., Orange) for my other two cars that I don't race?

I don't want glitching issues again as it has cost me money buying new parts b/c the car goes full throttle when it gets 25 feet out or less. So I really need a good radio but I don't want to break the bank! The DX3C is $100 or $85 with my coupon but now I'm not so sure this will fix my problem after reading through this thread.

You could look into the Sanwa (Airtronics) MX3X radio. This was the radio that eventually replaced my Spektrum, and besides offering quite low latency time, it also operated flawlessly. It is an older, but still current model, and it can easily be used for racing also.

The MX3X should not be very expensive and the RX's likewise, alternatively look at ebay.

asc6000 04-22-2014 12:27 PM

Airtronics 92524 can be found for under $50. Keep in mind that for some of the vehicles you don't run very often you can swap the receiver into another car with zero issues. The cars setting are in the TX so no worries. The 92524 is also small but it does not have some of the features of the $100 ones but it still works great regarding compatibility with servos and escs which is THE big reason to run Airtronics. The radio is the single most important investment you can make in the hobby. I stepped into the MT4 to replace my Airtronics radios from 1990 that till work like new.


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