Trackstar / Toro 150A Gen II with multi-function program box
#16
$97.66 shipped from RCMart.com for a SkyRC Toro 150A Gen II esc plus smart program box. That's pretty much the same price you would pay for the Trackstar version of esc and program box shipped.
http://www.rcmart.com/toro-ts150a-br...m-p-37241.html
http://www.rcmart.com/toro-ts150a-br...m-p-37241.html
#17
I pulled out a Novak SS Pro 17.5T 2-pole sensored brushless motor. I plugged the sensor wire into the SkyRC program box, connected motor to Trackstar esc, connected 2S lipo to Trackstar esc, and connected lipo balance plug into the SkyRC program box. Novak markets this as a 2200KV motor, so at no load and wide open throttle I should theoretically see 2200KV on the program box. With radio in one hand and iphone in the other I snapped a few pics going from low to high throttle. Here are the results:
RPM Voltage KV
1 7,380 7.69 959
2 9,690 7.68 1,260
3 13,570 7.67 1,767
4 16,350 7.67 2,131
I don't think I had the trigger squeezed all the way on the last pic, so the max measured KV could have been a little higher (closer to advertized 2,200) and I just didn't capture it in a photo. This is a neat little tool, but I can't see much use for it other than assigning KV values for sensored 540 can motors that only have turn counts stamped on the side.
This should work with any esc, any sensored brushless motor, and any lipo with a balance lead.
RPM Voltage KV
1 7,380 7.69 959
2 9,690 7.68 1,260
3 13,570 7.67 1,767
4 16,350 7.67 2,131
I don't think I had the trigger squeezed all the way on the last pic, so the max measured KV could have been a little higher (closer to advertized 2,200) and I just didn't capture it in a photo. This is a neat little tool, but I can't see much use for it other than assigning KV values for sensored 540 can motors that only have turn counts stamped on the side.
This should work with any esc, any sensored brushless motor, and any lipo with a balance lead.
#18
#20
That's great! Hope your prices are competetive with eBay sellers shipping from China (prices posted already in this thread). I know Vicious Teknology in North Carolina is also selling some of the Toro competition line, but not the 150A yet.
#21
#24
I submitted a request for HobbyKing support to look into this Trackstar ESC/PC connectivity issue, and PM'd Beaker151 to see if he is aware of the issue with Toro/SkyRC products.
NOTE: THE BLUETOOTH MODULE WORKS GREAT ON THE TORO ESC WITH MY iPHONE 5!! I think it's a supercool feature. And it appears to have most or all of the features found on the PC software. Let me know if you have any questions about that, or want to see pics.
NOTE: THE BLUETOOTH MODULE WORKS GREAT ON THE TORO ESC WITH MY iPHONE 5!! I think it's a supercool feature. And it appears to have most or all of the features found on the PC software. Let me know if you have any questions about that, or want to see pics.
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I submitted a request for HobbyKing support to look into this Trackstar ESC/PC connectivity issue, and PM'd Beaker151 to see if he is aware of the issue with Toro/SkyRC products.
NOTE: THE BLUETOOTH MODULE WORKS GREAT ON THE TORO ESC WITH MY iPHONE 5!! I think it's a supercool feature. And it appears to have most or all of the features found on the PC software. Let me know if you have any questions about that, or want to see pics.
NOTE: THE BLUETOOTH MODULE WORKS GREAT ON THE TORO ESC WITH MY iPHONE 5!! I think it's a supercool feature. And it appears to have most or all of the features found on the PC software. Let me know if you have any questions about that, or want to see pics.
#26
I just ordered a SkyLink module for about $12 on eBay from HobbyHot (SK-600013-02). I'll see if I get the same PC connectivity error using that instead of the program box on the Toro ESC. Now to wait another 2 weeks for shipping from China...
Turnigy does not appear to offer a SkyLink or bluetooth module, but both brands say the program box can connect the ESC to PC.
Turnigy does not appear to offer a SkyLink or bluetooth module, but both brands say the program box can connect the ESC to PC.
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Hey guys I'm am a dealer with SkyRC and I will try to assist as much as I can with any issues as I can. I'm just getting up and running so I will be flying blind on somethings at first.
On the Toro competition esc's it looks like you will have to buy a module for each of the three ways to program the esc's. The programming box, the Bluetooth Module and the skylink PC interface module.
Programming Box
SK-300046-01
Bluetooth Module
SK-600058-01
Skylink Computer interface module
SK-600013-02
I will try to get a representative from SkyRC to participate here on rctech to help all of get us to speed on their products and any questions that we have.
Until then feel free to shoot me a pm on any question that you may have and I will do all that I can. If Skyrc does agree to have a rep or reps participate here on RCTech I will start up a new thread.
On the Toro competition esc's it looks like you will have to buy a module for each of the three ways to program the esc's. The programming box, the Bluetooth Module and the skylink PC interface module.
Programming Box
SK-300046-01
Bluetooth Module
SK-600058-01
Skylink Computer interface module
SK-600013-02
I will try to get a representative from SkyRC to participate here on rctech to help all of get us to speed on their products and any questions that we have.
Until then feel free to shoot me a pm on any question that you may have and I will do all that I can. If Skyrc does agree to have a rep or reps participate here on RCTech I will start up a new thread.
#29
Honestly, I grabbed a Toro 120 amp (black) for an Emaxx, 6 months ago and the way it chimes, counts cells, and signals ready, even idling, it chimes to remind you it's on, I would swear it's a Castle knock off, at least the software. We used the card to program it, but be aware, there is two types of cards and they don't interchange per internet chatter. Fan quit on it, but that might have been because 3s was sending too much voltage to it, known issue on some esc's. But never fixed it and it never overheated. It ran fine, on a Blue Xerun 2300Kv until the EMaxx was traded. Right after that, their prices went up.
#30
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Long post but worth the read, the LIPO Cells info might save a few Lipos 
This info was obtained from the user manual of HobbyWing 150amp 1/8th car/buggy esc
(Competition version).
I found it provides a better explanation of the functions of the ESC as the Turnigy and SkyRC manuals are pretty lacking in this department. I am not saying that these units are the same or interchangeable, just that the functions seem to be the same, even the manuals have the functions listed in the same order. The full manual is available from the HobbyWing website
2.1. Running Mode: With “Forward with Brake” mode, the car can go forward and brake, but cannot go backward, this mode is suitable for competition;
“Forward/Reverse with Brake” mode provides backward function, which is suitable for daily training.
Note: “Forward/Reverse with Brake” mode uses “Double-click” method to make the car go backward.
When you move the throttle stick from forward zone to backward zone for the 1st time (The 1st“click”), the ESC begins to brake the motor, the motor speeds down but it is still running, not completely stopped, so the backward action is NOT happened immediately. When the throttle stick is moved to the backward zone for the 2nd time (The 2nd“click”), if the motor speed is slowed down to zero (i.e. stopped), the backward action will happen. The“Double-Click” method prevents mistaken reversing action when the brake function is frequently used in steering.
By the way, in the process of brake or reverse, if the throttle stick is moved to forward zone, the motor will run forward at once.
“Forward/Reverse” mode uses “Single-click” method to make the car go backward. When you move the throttle stick from forward zone to backward zone, the car will go backward immediately. This mode is usually used for the Rock Crawler.
2.2. Drag Brake Force: Set the amount of drag brake applied at neutral throttle to simulate the slight braking effect of a neutral brushed motor while coasting.
2.3. Low Voltage Cut-Off: The function prevents the lithium battery pack from over discharging. The ESC detects the battery’s voltage at any time, if the voltage is lower than the threshold for 2 seconds, the output power will be reduced 70%, after 10 seconds the output will be completely stopped, and the red LED flashes in such a way:
“☆-☆-, ☆-☆-, ☆-☆-”.
There are 6 preset options for this item. You can customize the cutoff threshold by using an advanced LCD program box (optional equipment) to trim it with a step of 0.1V, so it will be more suitable for all kinds of batteries (NiMH, NiCd, Li-ion, Lipo, LFP,etc). Please always keep in mind that the customized value is not for each cell, it is for the WHOLE battery pack.
2.4. Start Mode (Also called “Punch”): Select from “Level1” to “Level9” as your like, Level1 has a very soft start effect, while level9 has a very aggressive start effect. From Level1 to Level9, the start force is increasing.
Please note that if you choose “Level7” to “Level9” mode, you must use good quality battery pack with powerful discharge ability, otherwise these modes cannot get the burst start effect as you want. If the motor cannot run smoothly (the motor is trembling), it may caused by the weak discharge ability of the battery pack, please choose a better battery or increase the gear rate (Use a smaller pinion).
2.5. Maximum Brake Force: The ESC provides proportional brake function. The brake force is related to the position of the throttle stick. Maximum brake force refers to the force when the throttle stick is located at the top point of the backward zone. A very large brake force can shorten the brake time, but it may damage the gears. The “Disable” option inhibits the inherent brake function of the speed controller. When this option is selected, the brake function is realized by a traditional disc-brake system driven by a servo.
2.6. Maximum Reverse Force: Sets how much power will be applied in the reverse direction. Different value makes different reverse speed.
2.7. Initial Brake Force: It is also called “minimum brake force”, and it refers to the force when the throttle stick is located at the initial position of the backward zone. The default value is equal to the drag brake force, so the brake effect can be very smoothly.
2.8. Throttle Neutral Range: Please refer to the following picture to adjust the neutral range as your like. ATTACHED
2.9. Timing: There are many differences among structures and parameters of different brushless motors, so a fixed timing ESC is difficult to compatible with all brushless motors. It is necessary to make the timing value programmable. Please select the most suitable timing value according to the motor you are just using. Generally, higher timing value brings out higher power output, but the whole efficiency of the system will be slightly lower down.
2.10. Over-Heat Protection: If the function is activated, the output power will be cut-off when the temperature of the ESC or the internal temperature of the sensored brushless motor is higher than a factory-preset value for 5 seconds. When the protection happens, the Green LED will flash.
(Note: The over-heat protection function is permanently enabled by the manufacturer).
When the ESC is over-heat: The Green LED flashes as “☆-, ☆-, ☆-”.
When the motor is over-heat:The Green LED flashes as “☆-☆-, ☆-☆-, ☆-☆-”.
Note3: The motor over-heat protection function is only available for the sensored brushless motor made by the same manufacturer of the ESC. For motors made by other manufacturers, this function maybe not available or the protection point doesn’t match the design of the ESC
2.11. Motor Rotation: You can use this item to change the rotation direction. Face to the motor shaft (That means the rear cover of the motor is far from your face), and move the throttle stick to the top point of the forward zone. If this item is set to “CCW”, the shaft runs counter-clockwise; If this item is set to “CW”, the shaft runs clockwise.
2.12. Lipo Cells: We strongly suggest setting the “Lipo Cells” item manually . Because the normal voltage of each Lipo cell varies from 2.6V to 4.2V, it is quite difficult to calculate the cells number of a discharged Lipo battery pack. If it is calculated incorrectly, the Low Voltage Cutoff Protection function may work abnormally, so the option “Auto Calculate” is only available for 2s, 4s and 6s Lipo. If the voltage of the battery pack is lower than 8.8V, it is judged as a 2s Lipo; If the voltage is between 8.8V to 17.6V, it is judged as a 4s Lipo; If the voltage is higher than 17.6V, it is judged as a 6S Lipo.
So in order to make the Low Voltage Cutoff Protection function always work correctly, please set the “Lipo Cells” item manually.

This info was obtained from the user manual of HobbyWing 150amp 1/8th car/buggy esc
(Competition version).
I found it provides a better explanation of the functions of the ESC as the Turnigy and SkyRC manuals are pretty lacking in this department. I am not saying that these units are the same or interchangeable, just that the functions seem to be the same, even the manuals have the functions listed in the same order. The full manual is available from the HobbyWing website
2.1. Running Mode: With “Forward with Brake” mode, the car can go forward and brake, but cannot go backward, this mode is suitable for competition;
“Forward/Reverse with Brake” mode provides backward function, which is suitable for daily training.
Note: “Forward/Reverse with Brake” mode uses “Double-click” method to make the car go backward.
When you move the throttle stick from forward zone to backward zone for the 1st time (The 1st“click”), the ESC begins to brake the motor, the motor speeds down but it is still running, not completely stopped, so the backward action is NOT happened immediately. When the throttle stick is moved to the backward zone for the 2nd time (The 2nd“click”), if the motor speed is slowed down to zero (i.e. stopped), the backward action will happen. The“Double-Click” method prevents mistaken reversing action when the brake function is frequently used in steering.
By the way, in the process of brake or reverse, if the throttle stick is moved to forward zone, the motor will run forward at once.
“Forward/Reverse” mode uses “Single-click” method to make the car go backward. When you move the throttle stick from forward zone to backward zone, the car will go backward immediately. This mode is usually used for the Rock Crawler.
2.2. Drag Brake Force: Set the amount of drag brake applied at neutral throttle to simulate the slight braking effect of a neutral brushed motor while coasting.
2.3. Low Voltage Cut-Off: The function prevents the lithium battery pack from over discharging. The ESC detects the battery’s voltage at any time, if the voltage is lower than the threshold for 2 seconds, the output power will be reduced 70%, after 10 seconds the output will be completely stopped, and the red LED flashes in such a way:
“☆-☆-, ☆-☆-, ☆-☆-”.
There are 6 preset options for this item. You can customize the cutoff threshold by using an advanced LCD program box (optional equipment) to trim it with a step of 0.1V, so it will be more suitable for all kinds of batteries (NiMH, NiCd, Li-ion, Lipo, LFP,etc). Please always keep in mind that the customized value is not for each cell, it is for the WHOLE battery pack.
2.4. Start Mode (Also called “Punch”): Select from “Level1” to “Level9” as your like, Level1 has a very soft start effect, while level9 has a very aggressive start effect. From Level1 to Level9, the start force is increasing.
Please note that if you choose “Level7” to “Level9” mode, you must use good quality battery pack with powerful discharge ability, otherwise these modes cannot get the burst start effect as you want. If the motor cannot run smoothly (the motor is trembling), it may caused by the weak discharge ability of the battery pack, please choose a better battery or increase the gear rate (Use a smaller pinion).
2.5. Maximum Brake Force: The ESC provides proportional brake function. The brake force is related to the position of the throttle stick. Maximum brake force refers to the force when the throttle stick is located at the top point of the backward zone. A very large brake force can shorten the brake time, but it may damage the gears. The “Disable” option inhibits the inherent brake function of the speed controller. When this option is selected, the brake function is realized by a traditional disc-brake system driven by a servo.
2.6. Maximum Reverse Force: Sets how much power will be applied in the reverse direction. Different value makes different reverse speed.
2.7. Initial Brake Force: It is also called “minimum brake force”, and it refers to the force when the throttle stick is located at the initial position of the backward zone. The default value is equal to the drag brake force, so the brake effect can be very smoothly.
2.8. Throttle Neutral Range: Please refer to the following picture to adjust the neutral range as your like. ATTACHED
2.9. Timing: There are many differences among structures and parameters of different brushless motors, so a fixed timing ESC is difficult to compatible with all brushless motors. It is necessary to make the timing value programmable. Please select the most suitable timing value according to the motor you are just using. Generally, higher timing value brings out higher power output, but the whole efficiency of the system will be slightly lower down.
2.10. Over-Heat Protection: If the function is activated, the output power will be cut-off when the temperature of the ESC or the internal temperature of the sensored brushless motor is higher than a factory-preset value for 5 seconds. When the protection happens, the Green LED will flash.
(Note: The over-heat protection function is permanently enabled by the manufacturer).
When the ESC is over-heat: The Green LED flashes as “☆-, ☆-, ☆-”.
When the motor is over-heat:The Green LED flashes as “☆-☆-, ☆-☆-, ☆-☆-”.
Note3: The motor over-heat protection function is only available for the sensored brushless motor made by the same manufacturer of the ESC. For motors made by other manufacturers, this function maybe not available or the protection point doesn’t match the design of the ESC
2.11. Motor Rotation: You can use this item to change the rotation direction. Face to the motor shaft (That means the rear cover of the motor is far from your face), and move the throttle stick to the top point of the forward zone. If this item is set to “CCW”, the shaft runs counter-clockwise; If this item is set to “CW”, the shaft runs clockwise.
2.12. Lipo Cells: We strongly suggest setting the “Lipo Cells” item manually . Because the normal voltage of each Lipo cell varies from 2.6V to 4.2V, it is quite difficult to calculate the cells number of a discharged Lipo battery pack. If it is calculated incorrectly, the Low Voltage Cutoff Protection function may work abnormally, so the option “Auto Calculate” is only available for 2s, 4s and 6s Lipo. If the voltage of the battery pack is lower than 8.8V, it is judged as a 2s Lipo; If the voltage is between 8.8V to 17.6V, it is judged as a 4s Lipo; If the voltage is higher than 17.6V, it is judged as a 6S Lipo.
So in order to make the Low Voltage Cutoff Protection function always work correctly, please set the “Lipo Cells” item manually.





