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rc-demon 04-23-2014 10:15 AM


Originally Posted by howardcano (Post 13208087)
My apologies for this late response to your question.

The loop is affected by any conductors nearby, so shielding is exactly the opposite of what we want.

My advice is try it and see how it goes. If you encounter problems, you can always go back to the original loop specification.

No problems Howard. Ok i think i will take opposite approach and build to original specs and get it working, then i can try variation under carpet.

Congrats on the 50k views and all your hard work to make this possible for all of us!

thanks!

rc-demon 04-23-2014 12:25 PM


Originally Posted by howardcano (Post 12118191)
Three of the PC-scoring-software companies that I have contacted have responded, and are interested in supporting the “Cano” decoder. One company, ZRound, has already provided a test version of their software, and I have successfully run it with the decoder, in practice mode. Next I’ll try qualifying and race modes. Here’s a very big THANK YOU to ZRound for their efforts!

Hi Howard,

I have not had any luck getting a hold of Flip Side Racing concerning a version for Cano, no response in Miniz forums and no contact form on website. Do you have an email for them ?

For Zround i have found. For those who want the download link here it is http://www.zround.com/download.php?list.5

what is the third software company?

thanks!

howardcano 04-23-2014 04:14 PM


Originally Posted by rc-demon (Post 13208486)
Hi Howard,

I have not had any luck getting a hold of Flip Side Racing concerning a version for Cano, no response in Miniz forums and no contact form on website. Do you have an email for them ?

For Zround i have found. For those who want the download link here it is http://www.zround.com/download.php?list.5

what is the third software company?

thanks!

I just emailed the FlipSide software to you.

The third company requested many changes to the data sent by the decoder to match their software, and I did not pursue it further.

rc-demon 04-24-2014 11:30 AM

got the software Howard, thanks.

About the errata below, does it still apply? was the PCB design corrected in the version i am using? this is for REV B if i understand, you would have corrected this in REV C but its not tested?

"The 1uF capacitor on U2 (the 7805 regulator) was mislabeled on the schematic (duplicated “C4” reference designators), and consequentially was not included on the board. The cap should be soldered directly to U2.

The node label “3D” was misplaced on the schematic at U20A pin 3, causing the connection to be ignored. A jumper must be soldered from U20A pin 3 to U21 pin 4."

howardcano 04-24-2014 12:24 PM


Originally Posted by rc-demon (Post 13210967)
got the software Howard, thanks.

About the errata below, does it still apply? was the PCB design corrected in the version i am using? this is for REV B if i understand, you would have corrected this in REV C but its not tested?

"The 1uF capacitor on U2 (the 7805 regulator) was mislabeled on the schematic (duplicated “C4” reference designators), and consequentially was not included on the board. The cap should be soldered directly to U2.

The node label “3D” was misplaced on the schematic at U20A pin 3, causing the connection to be ignored. A jumper must be soldered from U20A pin 3 to U21 pin 4."

Yes, the errata still applies. If you feel you want to take the risk, you could make the corrections before you made new boards.

FYI, I just updated the spec post, as I realized it still indicated the loop amp board was untested.

rc-demon 05-20-2014 05:33 PM

Received my decoder boards! they look great. Now working on getting transponder board design updated and then made. I will start building decoder as soon as i have all the parts.

http://www.hostingforcanada.com/denn...der_boards.jpg

luluFRA 06-11-2014 03:50 AM


Originally Posted by maeg (Post 13194154)
Hi guys!
I have great news - Payalneg find encription method to determine amb/mrt transponders as is - with numbers at box!
At this weekend I plan to test this version of firmware, I'll post result ASAP.


Somes news ?
thanks

luluFRA 06-11-2014 08:55 AM


Originally Posted by howardcano (Post 12209996)
The hybrid sends messages in both formats to enable use with the RC3 and RC4 decoders. The preamble for the RC3 remains unchanged.

RC3 preamble, first transmitted bit on left: 1111100100010110

RC4 preamble, first transmitted bit on left: 1111110000001010

Edit: "1" indicates a carrier phase inversion.

How many messages are send by a RC4 transponder ?
RC3 preamble + "ID" message
RC3 preamble +7 status messages
RC4 preamble + ?????

thanks.

howardcano 06-11-2014 09:16 AM


Originally Posted by luluFRA (Post 13328432)
How many messages are send by a RC4 transponder ?
RC3 preamble + "ID" message
RC3 preamble +7 status messages
RC4 preamble + ?????

thanks.

I don't know the exact number for the RC4, or even if there is one. There were many more unique transmissions than I was willing to count.

luluFRA 06-11-2014 11:22 AM


Originally Posted by Payalneg (Post 13157304)
convolutional codes and the Viterbi algorithm

If an Rc4 has no sequence message, Payalneg, how you detect an rc4 transponder ?

Thanks.

luluFRA 06-11-2014 01:29 PM


Originally Posted by howardcano (Post 13328478)
I don't know the exact number for the RC4, or even if there is one. There were many more unique transmissions than I was willing to count.

OK,thanks, between a RC3 and RC4 sequences on a RC4 transponder, have you seen some equal bit after their preamble ?

snoopyrc 06-14-2014 05:36 AM


Originally Posted by rc-demon (Post 13203804)

Can i shield the ribbon cable from the concrete floor? what could be used to do that?

thanks!


Originally Posted by howardcano (Post 13208087)
The loop is affected by any conductors nearby, so shielding is exactly the opposite of what we want.

My advice is try it and see how it goes. If you encounter problems, you can always go back to the original loop specification.

I don't have a a dog in this hunt, but could you place a sheet of shielding material between the concrete and the carpet? Instead of shielding the loop itself?

howardcano 06-14-2014 06:21 AM


Originally Posted by snoopyrc (Post 13335071)
I don't have a a dog in this hunt, but could you place a sheet of shielding material between the concrete and the carpet? Instead of shielding the loop itself?

No, the loop can't be shielded since it needs to receive the field from the transponder. It needs to be as far away from any extraneous conductors as possible. Several feet would be best.

Welcome to the thread, Snoopy!

snoopyrc 06-14-2014 09:17 AM

Ok. I don't know enough about it. I was thinking of it more as shielding the concrete than the loop. Stacked as concrete, shield, loop, and carpet.
(Edit: Or if using a bridge; concrete, shield, carpet, transponder, loop.
Can shielding material be bought in sheets? Surely guys who do car stereo installations use something like that.)

I haven't chimed in, but I have been lurking. I have an RC4, but it was very hard to come by. I think the club for who can be a race director is too exclusive, too expensive, and just too difficult to get into. You and this thread. You have kicked a door open, for those who may not be loaded, but are determined or otherwise able to do it. You have made a way.

Decoders should be five or six hundred bucks. Transponders less than forty, but that is just my daydream. You are doing a good thing here. I wish I had more to contribute than my encouragement.

PA3EXV 06-15-2014 02:00 PM

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