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tomdav 01-23-2013 03:30 PM

With the new RC4 firmware the MRT's only count intermittently.

rider313 01-23-2013 04:33 PM

We found they work perfectly in practice mode but during races is when they start skipping.

Jason Turner 01-24-2013 11:05 PM

MYLAPS... or me..... who do I blame ugh I got me a RC4 transponder from rctech and of course my track doesn't have RC4 decoder highly annoyed!:flaming:

Bishop 01-24-2013 11:27 PM


Originally Posted by Jason Turner (Post 11725783)
MYLAPS... or me..... who do I blame ugh I got me a RC4 transponder from rctech and of course my track doesn't have RC4 decoder highly annoyed!

Sucks yeah?, same situation at our last meeting, two people showed with new RC4 transponders, while we are still using RC3 decoders.

You may have to ponder on one little extra thought I had, we had/have club transponders to use, but you then need to remember MyLaps has stopped production of these some time back, and are actively trying to buy back units (via trade ins), but even keeping them they won't last forever, so it's one other way they obviously want to force RC4 on everyone.

With the track record we are now seeing from MyLaps, I'll just throw out a crazy theory, and say give it 2-3 years, my bet is the club transponders and original AMB/pt will be fazed out with another firmware upgrade, meaning you will require a RC4 Hybrid or RC4 to race anywhere with a MyLaps decoder.

Jason Turner 01-24-2013 11:32 PM

It was a bummer but i'm just now understanding all this. How new are the RC4 only transponders?


Originally Posted by Bishop (Post 11725842)
Sucks yeah?, same situation at our last meeting, two people showed with new RC4 transponders, while we are still using RC3 decoders.

You may have to ponder on one little extra thought I had, we had/have club transponders to use, but you then need to remember MyLaps has stopped production of these some time back, and are actively trying to buy back units (via trade ins), but even keeping them they won't last forever, so it's one other way they obviously want to force RC4 on everyone.

With the track record we are now seeing from MyLaps, I'll just throw out a crazy theory, and say give it 2-3 years, my bet is the club transponders and original AMB/pt will be fazed out with another firmware upgrade, meaning you will require a RC4 Hybrid or RC4 to race anywhere with a MyLaps decoder.


Bishop 01-25-2013 12:03 AM


Originally Posted by Jason Turner (Post 11725853)
It was a bummer but i'm just now understanding all this. How new are the RC4 only transponders?

Month or two max, I get the feeling MyLaps have been doing the hard sell to get them out there, sucks for the tracks.

bigwavedave33 02-19-2013 07:00 AM


Originally Posted by orcadigital (Post 11679601)
Anybody else find it ironic that in the days of $500 touring cars, $150 lipos, $250 ESC's, $100 motors, $100 servos, $25 bodies, $20 allen wrenches, $70 pit lights, etc etc that everyone gets all uppity about a $100 transponder that unlike pretty much everything else, will last for the next half dozen years?

I personally buy a lot used because of cost, but when I think about what I have invested in RC, transponders really isn't that big of a thing. And unlike everything else I own RC related, transponders actually hold their value reasonable well on the used market.

Is the cost a barrier to new people coming into RC? I think yes. But no more so then everything else. If you want to race, it's part of the cost of entry.

I own 2 hybrids, 1 of the older AMB's and a much bigger one for my 1:1 race car. It just seems like people are making a bigger deal of this then is really there.

I think this is more of a compatibility issue more than a price issue. Although its the gripe you hear most, this will cause a hugy issue with which transponder to run where???? This is 100% economically driven... Has nothing to do with technology.

Blitzrockey 02-19-2013 04:21 PM

Just wanna be sure here. With the new rc4 decoder box if I have the older ambrc pts and go to a track with the new box my pt will still count correct?

JimmyG 02-19-2013 04:36 PM

wow..

There is a closed thread at the top of the "radio and electronics" section that says...
amb clarification
read it...

hesh 02-20-2013 01:11 AM


Originally Posted by JimmyG (Post 11836720)
wow..

There is a closed thread at the top of the "radio and electronics" section that says...
amb clarification
read it...

that was a very informative thread which answered some questions

djiewie 02-20-2013 04:20 AM

it would be logical that when a track buy a lapcounting system it would be
for whatever a transponder. i suppose it was not told when decoders where bought by tracks, that it was intended for only mylaps transponders. I wouldn`t have bought a MRT if i knew.
Now with the tracks not all having upgraded to RC4 the clones maybe don`t work and transponder you need is a RC4 Hybrid when you need one. The discount trade off is only for RC4 wich can`t be used now. So i am buying the hybrid wich will count on all the tracks with the upcoming nationals from april.

Sucks that the MRT is worthless.

pablo040 02-23-2013 09:05 PM


Originally Posted by Jason Turner (Post 11725783)
MYLAPS... or me..... who do I blame ugh I got me a RC4 transponder from rctech and of course my track doesn't have RC4 decoder highly annoyed!:flaming:

Better yet, you could be an active member of a very small club, and find out the idiot club secretary took it upon himself to spend $1200 of the club's money for the unheeded RC4. decoder - just because he had a beef with a couple of guys that used MRTs. He didn't even have the stones.to mention anything until after a month of miscounting thee guy"s laps.
Pretty lame waste of money if you ask me!

But someone else,above, mentioned that ultimately it's mylaps/amb's way of increasing revenue, by eventually phasing out the earlier transponders with software changes, and forcing everyone to buy new rc4 transponders, just like phased out handout transponders.
"Planned Obsolescence" my friends.

racer1812 02-24-2013 09:33 AM

How/why did he spend $1200, the upgrade is like $330 IIRC.

pablo040 02-24-2013 10:07 AM


Originally Posted by racer1812 (Post 11855441)
How/why did he spend $1200, the upgrade is like $330 IIRC.

I think he exaggerated, who knows.

Went to race at another track today, much larger club, and since the haven't upgraded my new shiney 3-wire mylaps I got this week don't work there either.

Now I'm doubly pissed.

Scrubb 02-25-2013 07:34 AM

I'm surprised MRT has not come out with a decoder box themselves.


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