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SouthFloridaApp 08-13-2013 05:56 PM

Danny,

I am wondering your thoughts on letting batteries cool before charging again. If so, how long do you recommend. FYI I usually wait at least 40 min. before charging again...

PetRock 08-13-2013 06:28 PM


Originally Posted by SouthFloridaApp (Post 12444438)
I am wondering your thoughts on letting batteries cool before charging again. If so, how long do you recommend. FYI I usually wait at least 40 min. before charging again...

That's a good question. Because my packs always charge cool-to-the-touch I thought that it was OK to charge them if I just pulled them out of a truck a bit warm. (i.e. they're going to cool at the same rate anyways, since charging isn't adding heat).

If charging them when they're still a bit warm is hurting them... then I've been damaging mine on track days (for bashing there's never a rush to charge)

kcobra 08-13-2013 06:39 PM

I'm not Danny but I see no issue with charging a warm pack just out of the car. Charging lipos does not add any heat. This ain't red cell NiCad days. :)

In my totally un-scientific opinion, charging a warm lipo pack might actually be better for it as a warm back has lower IR than a cooler pack.

rcjunky1 08-13-2013 07:57 PM

I've always wondered the same, we'll see what the master has to say, but lipo warming was a bit of a thing before ROAR banned it due to the home made contraptions people were using, but a warm pack has a lower IR and should get a better charge with less wear on the pack, meanwhile some say let them cool first. I've never heard a clear educated response.

Hoese37 08-13-2013 09:15 PM


Originally Posted by SouthFloridaApp (Post 12444438)
Danny,

I am wondering your thoughts on letting batteries cool before charging again. If so, how long do you recommend. FYI I usually wait at least 40 min. before charging again...

They shouldnt be much warmer than ambient temperature. If they are, something in your setup is off.

You can just start charging as soon as your done, but I like to let them sit for 5-10 so the cells can equalize.

gticlay 08-13-2013 10:46 PM


Originally Posted by kcobra (Post 12444597)
I'm not Danny but I see no issue with charging a warm pack just out of the car. Charging lipos does not add any heat. This ain't red cell NiCad days. :)

In my totally un-scientific opinion, charging a warm lipo pack might actually be better for it as a warm back has lower IR than a cooler pack.

1400mah Sanyo SCR's rocked! That's what I was running in my Avatar pic :D

Danny/SMC 08-13-2013 11:27 PM


Originally Posted by Mullet1 (Post 12444197)
4s's coming soon?

Started to fill out pre-orders today. We won't have enough to fill out all pre-orders. I will post up to what number we were able to make it tomorrow afternoon.

Danny/SMC 08-13-2013 11:29 PM


Originally Posted by SouthFloridaApp (Post 12444438)
Danny,

I am wondering your thoughts on letting batteries cool before charging again. If so, how long do you recommend. FYI I usually wait at least 40 min. before charging again...

You can charge them when they are warm especially if you use 1C or 2C for charge rates. They will actually cool down while charging as at those rates it really doesn't heat up the cells much.

My cycle life testing consists of 50 back to back cycles with 10 minute delays and after this test a good pack only drops 0.8 to 1.2% of it's mAh and the IR stays the same.

RavensNightFury 08-13-2013 11:36 PM

Danny when will yours have a importer in Australia so we don't have to worrie about importer lipos

DarthRacer 08-14-2013 06:35 AM


Originally Posted by rcjunky1 (Post 12444856)
I've always wondered the same, we'll see what the master has to say, but lipo warming was a bit of a thing before ROAR banned it due to the home made contraptions people were using, but a warm pack has a lower IR and should get a better charge with less wear on the pack, meanwhile some say let them cool first. I've never heard a clear educated response.

I've never had a lipo warm up during a race. They get popped right back on the charger after marshaling duties so they get about a 10min resting period between use and re-charge.

Bignose94015 08-14-2013 07:00 AM

Real quick question. I bought two packs from you and noticed something a little strange about one of my 2S 5100's. I always balance charge both packs. For some reason on the second balance charge of battery number 2 it will only charge to 4.19 and 4.2 volt each. The other cell will balnce charge to 4.2-4.2. Is this normal?

Thanks,

Eric

Darkgenerals 08-14-2013 07:06 AM


Originally Posted by Hoese37 (Post 12445075)
They shouldnt be much warmer than ambient temperature. If they are, something in your setup is off.

You can just start charging as soon as your done, but I like to let them sit for 5-10 so the cells can equalize.

I guess you've never ran SC before, my SCTE warms the bats up pretty good. 110 to 115 when ambient is 95ish.

Good to now I can charge right after running, I usually let them sit for 5-10 mins before I start to charge them.

Hoese37 08-14-2013 07:08 AM


Originally Posted by Darkgenerals (Post 12446032)
I guess you've never ran SC before, my SCTE warms the bats up pretty good. 110 to 115 when ambient is 95ish.

Good to now I can charge right after running, I usually let them sit for 5-10 mins before I start to charge them.

Read my sig.

Darkgenerals 08-14-2013 07:09 AM


Originally Posted by Hoese37 (Post 12446038)
Read my sig.

lulz reading failure on my part, my bad. Still all of my bats come off warm from my SCTE, and my sc10 4x4.

Hoese37 08-14-2013 07:15 AM

Ive had them come off warm to the touch, but not hot.


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