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Old 08-22-2012 | 02:19 PM
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Am looking at servos and am curious about brushless technology. Is it way better and why? I know what brushes are but am clueless to brushless...
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In a word, yes. Just as with any electric motor, brushless servos should last longer while also delivering other benefits. Take a look at Futaba's synopsis of the technology for more.
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I would argue that they are not "way" better but certainly an improvment
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Ok, are they worth the extra money???
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Supposedly they don't wear out but I have never worn out a servo. I have one that is almost 20 years old and still works. I only run electric though, and I know nitro is harder on servos. Has anyone here worn the motor out on a servo?
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They are for us. My son and I have 3 Futaba BLS-451 servos that are several years old, have worked great in 1/10 buggies and stadium trucks. Solid on track response and torque, don’t overshoot, smooth and quiet not buzzy or jerky, haven’t developed any noticeable slop. I’ve never heard of one causing radio brownout, don’t seem to need glitch busters or external BECs like some others. My son tried a newer better rated servo for a while, ended up going back to the old Futaba. I’ve seen them win ROAR nats and other major races.
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They are for us. My son and I have 3 Futaba BLS-451 servos that are several years old, have worked great in 1/10 buggies and stadium trucks. Solid on track response and torque, don’t overshoot, smooth and quiet not buzzy or jerky, haven’t developed any noticeable slop. I’ve never heard of one causing radio brownout, don’t seem to need glitch busters or external BECs like some others. My son tried a newer better rated servo for a while, ended up going back to the old Futaba. I’ve seen them win ROAR nats and other major races.
My experience has been the same. I have two BLS451's and an AE 1015digital. The 1015 is so unsmooth by comparison that I am able to keep using it only because it's in a Losi SCTE where all the front end slop negates anything else anyway.
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You need a strong bec to run them I'd say no IMO they aren't worth the cash
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Supposedly they don't wear out but I have never worn out a servo. I have one that is almost 20 years old and still works. I only run electric though, and I know nitro is harder on servos. Has anyone here worn the motor out on a servo?
Have many servos, several brands, over nearly 25 years, yes they work, but most have developed some slop within a couple years. Can't be positive, but my first really good ones, KO FET servos in my Vintage rides, sure don't seem nearly as fast as they used to be. New gear set would likely help the slop, but I think it would take a comm cut and new brushes to get the response back. Don't think they will fit in my lathe though! Also all in electrics.
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You need a strong bec to run them I'd say no IMO they aren't worth the cash
Odd, that's exactly opposite my experience. Which brushless models have you tried?

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Brushless Servos are the next natural upgrade point, sort of like how big of an impact Coreless Servos made when they hit the market.

They are faster, more powerful, more wear resistant, and will typically consume less power to do the job. They are just electrically more complex.
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Old 08-22-2012 | 08:20 PM
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Il be honest ive been running a high voltage coreless diginal steel gear servo on my truggy and never striped one and has enough speed and plently of torque . So i dont see the need in a brushless servo and the money for them .
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Originally Posted by Dave H
Have many servos, several brands, over nearly 25 years, yes they work, but most have developed some slop within a couple years. Can't be positive, but my first really good ones, KO FET servos in my Vintage rides, sure don't seem nearly as fast as they used to be. New gear set would likely help the slop, but I think it would take a comm cut and new brushes to get the response back. Don't think they will fit in my lathe though! Also all in electrics.
Good point Dave.

I will say that every Futaba product I have seen or owned has impressed me. I strongly recommend them.
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Originally Posted by Dave H
Odd, that's exactly opposite my experience. Which brushless models have you tried?
Oops sorry didn't think before I typed I thought they put a strong draw on the bec now that I think about it less resistance less draw on the bec I'd like to try one of the ones from hobbyking for what they are theyre cheap.

http://www.hobbyking.com/hobbyking/s..._0_06_56g.html

And you're right I have no experience shouldn't of posted in the first place

I already got a discount for $2 by sitting on the page LOL
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Originally Posted by Eric Tomczyk
Good point Dave.

I will say that every Futaba product I have seen or owned has impressed me. I strongly recommend them.
I agree, Futaba is always a solid choice, have an old Magnum Jr that still works fine. As does my old fav KO EX-1s, and Airtronics are always good radios too I think. For now we get by with early Spektrum DX3Rs, they’ve worked well for us.

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Oops sorry didn't think before I typed I thought they put a strong draw on the bec now that I think about it less resistance less draw on the bec I'd like to try one of the ones from hobbyking for what they are theyre cheap.

http://www.hobbyking.com/hobbyking/s..._0_06_56g.html

And you're right I have no experience shouldn't of posted in the first place

I already got a discount for $2 by sitting on the page LOL
Hey no problem, happens to us all. Kudos for replying. Good to see the choices expanding, hadn’t seen that one before.
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