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mike22 05-18-2011 01:08 PM

Savox 1256tg
 
I have the savox 1256tg on my losi buggy 2.0 works great race after race

rcgarrettp9 05-18-2011 07:54 PM

Thank you so much i think im going with savox for sure

ntrain42 05-18-2011 08:45 PM


Originally Posted by bobbyc1127 (Post 9130916)
I am assuming that post about blowing hitecs back to back is directed at me. If not then I am sorry. But the last time I popped a servo it was a Hitec driver that set it up for me and it went out. this is when I decided it was time to move on. Now maybe your saying the driver from Hitec did not know what he is doing?

In my opinion Savox is the best servo for ME so far. I won't look at anything else.

Why would someone else be setting up YOUR own gear? ;)

ntrain42 05-18-2011 08:57 PM


Originally Posted by rcgarrettp9 (Post 9132841)
Thank you so much i think im going with savox for sure

Bro, if you had a chance to disassemble a Savox servo and get a look at the quality of components used vs. a Hitec, you wouldn't be picking a Savox. Hitec has been the gold standard for 20 plus years and still is. We did some direct comparisons here locally. They don't come close to hitting their rated specs, they consume alot more power, and they have had compatibility/reliability issues.

Here is one review of a Savox product: http://www.bigsquidrc.com/savox-sb-7...-servo-review/

Here is a review of a HV Hitec servo: http://www.bigsquidrc.com/hitec-hs-7950th-review/

;) I honestly wouldnt trust half the folks opinions that are promoting Savox. The entire lineup under the name is built in substandard fashion compared to Hitec.

sickboy 05-18-2011 11:19 PM

Savox=good value, Hitec=better value, KO Rsx=best servos ever.
Long warranties are good, not having to use the warranty is better.

bobbyc1127 05-19-2011 04:05 AM


Originally Posted by ntrain42 (Post 9133067)
Why would someone else be setting up YOUR own gear? ;)

Because he is a friend of mine and he knew the issues I was having and I was wanting to see if I was doing something wrong. well apparently I wasn't because he has since left Hitec and went onto another brand of servos. At a big event where Hitec reps were there I saw driver after driver walking to there booth with blown servos. Finally an east Texas driver took all his Hitec servo over to the reps and told them what they could do with there servos.

bobbyc1127 05-19-2011 04:09 AM


Originally Posted by ntrain42 (Post 9133116)
Bro, if you had a chance to disassemble a Savox servo and get a look at the quality of components used vs. a Hitec, you wouldn't be picking a Savox. Hitec has been the gold standard for 20 plus years and still is. We did some direct comparisons here locally. They don't come close to hitting their rated specs, they consume alot more power, and they have had compatibility/reliability issues.

Here is one review of a Savox product: http://www.bigsquidrc.com/savox-sb-7...-servo-review/

Here is a review of a HV Hitec servo: http://www.bigsquidrc.com/hitec-hs-7950th-review/

;) I honestly wouldnt trust half the folks opinions that are promoting Savox. The entire lineup under the name is built in substandard fashion compared to Hitec.

So your saying because we refuse to listen to you on your soap box about the Hitec servos we as drivers consumers and people are substandard? You sir need to wake up. Attitudes like your putting out in this last statement is why people end up walking away from the hobby.

ntrain42 05-19-2011 05:49 AM


Originally Posted by bobbyc1127 (Post 9134099)
Because he is a friend of mine and he knew the issues I was having and I was wanting to see if I was doing something wrong. well apparently I wasn't because he has since left Hitec and went onto another brand of servos. At a big event where Hitec reps were there I saw driver after driver walking to there booth with blown servos. Finally an east Texas driver took all his Hitec servo over to the reps and told them what they could do with there servos.

May I ask specifically who this friend/Hitec Team driver(or rep) was? And which servo or servos were "blowing"? Got links to the "issues" everybody claimed to have?

I am having quite a hard time believing this because Hitec has for decades been known as the best Servo mfg. period. In fact at the local airmans club here, thats all that is used in very expensive model planes. Literally everybody uses Hitec servos soley, not most people, but everyone. Their reliability has been proven for years countless times over. I myself have used nothing but Hitec servos(dozens of them)for the past 20 years and I have yet to ever get a defective one or have one outright fail.

ntrain42 05-19-2011 05:59 AM


Originally Posted by bobbyc1127 (Post 9134107)
So your saying because we refuse to listen to you on your soap box about the Hitec servos we as drivers consumers and people are substandard? You sir need to wake up. Attitudes like your putting out in this last statement is why people end up walking away from the hobby.

I am sorry, but I think your claimed story is just a tad "fishy" since "we" drivers up here in my area have never run into anything your claiming. WHat, was everyone running a new prereleased experimental servo from Hitec off the same batch? :lol: Regardless for the record, no Im not saying a defective servo from Hitec isnt possible, but your saying/claiming now that everybody was blowing Hitec servos at a specific race? :lol: Sorry bro, kind of hard to believe, no specifics were given on the type of class raced, no names of "Factory/team drivers"(Alot of reps and drivers sponsored by Hitec post here on the tech), no links to the issue, no info given on the Hitec model # you had issues with,voltage run,exact definition of "blown" etc etc.

And Im sorry, but if you can't install or set up a simple servo(how hard exactly can that be?)or even have issues(exactly what kind of issue could you not rectify or solve on your own?)requiring someone else's help for setup, then it sounds like you really don't have much experience overall as a "racer".

nashvillecactus 05-19-2011 06:06 AM


Originally Posted by ntrain42 (Post 9134374)
May I ask specifically who this friend/Hitec Team driver(or rep) was? And which servo or servos were "blowing"? Got links to the "issues" everybody claimed to have?

I am having quite a hard time believing this because Hitec has for decades been known as the best Servo mfg. period. In fact at the local airmans club here, thats all that is used in very expensive model planes. Literally everybody uses Hitec servos soley, not most people, but everyone. Their reliability has been proven for years countless times over. I myself have used nothing but Hitec servos(dozens of them)for the past 20 years and I have yet to ever get a defective one or have one outright fail.

Having never owned a Hitec, I can't comment on which is better etc. But I will say that it's interesting that you are the one giving anecdote after anecdote that basically says Savox is crap and everyone who says otherwise is crazy with 0 supporting evidence and are demanding evidence from someone else. The closest you've come is a link to a negative review of a servo that nobody in this thread has even recommended. And you say that servos were tested locally and didn't live up to their published specs. How were they tested? Who tested them? Which servos were tested? Did you compare the servo's published ratings versus observed with a similarly spec'ed servo from another vendor / other vendors? And even if Savox were a a little ambitious / optimistic about their published specs, they wouldn't be the first in the RC world to do so, since there doesn't seem to be any independent testing labs that are used, and that still wouldn't make them bad servos. And who cares what your local air club runs? People tend to follow the herd, so if a couple of respected old timers tell everyone that hitec is great and everything else is crap, then easy to see how others would follow suit. When I was into flying, almost everyone at the local club used futabas, for what it's worth.

bobbyc, same thing, your tale about hitecs blowing up left and right sounds a little far fetched. If they were as bad as you say, I can't imagine they would be so popular.

ntrain42 05-19-2011 06:24 AM


Originally Posted by nashvillecactus (Post 9134433)
Having never owned a Hitec, I can't comment on which is better etc. But I will say that it's interesting that you are the one giving anecdote after anecdote that basically says Savox is crap and everyone who says otherwise is crazy with 0 supporting evidence. The closest you've come is a link to a negative review of a servo that nobody in this thread has even recommended. And you say that servos were tested locally and didn't live up to their published specs. How were they tested? Who tested them? Which servos were tested? Did you compare the servo's published ratings versus observed with a similarly spec'ed servo from another vendor / other vendors? And even if Savox were a a little ambitious / optimistic about their published specs, they wouldn't be the first in the RC world to do so, since there doesn't seem to be any independent testing labs that are used, and that still wouldn't make them bad servos. And who cares what your local air club runs? People tend to follow the herd, so if a couple of respected old timers tell everyone that hitec is great and everything else is crap, then easy to see how others would follow suit. When I was into flying, almost everyone at the local club used futabas, for what it's worth.

bobbyc, same thing, your tale about hitecs blowing up left and right sounds a little far fetched. If they were as bad as you say, I can't imagine they would be so popular.


Savox, absolute "cr@p"? No. But over spec'd and over priced for what they truely are I do feel so.

Actually I can throw up a couple more links on reviews on Savox servos if need be. I didnt bother though since I have direct experience with them and testing 2 specific model #'s out. The 1267 and 1268 Hi voltage models. Both came nowhere near their rated/claimed specs for torque/transit time. But for the record pretty much ALL servos claimed rated specs are a bit overblown, but some do come much closer than others(Hitec being one). One very interesting test done by the owner of NE Models hobby shop here locally(He is both a Hitec and Savox dealer), had a Hitec 7945 attached directly to a 1268 high voltage torque servo. Both with comparable specs(that favored the Savox on paper). At a regulated 7.4 volts the Hitec stalled out and pull back the Savox servo like it wasnt even turned on. He swapped out the 7945 and put a HS 7940 in its place, same thing, and the 7940 had nowhere near the rated torque on paper.

The Savox 1267/1268 servos at 7.4 volts also drained a fresh 1000mah nimh 6v rx pack almost 35% quicker than ANY of the Hitec HV model servos did using a 5.8v cutoff point.

Hence why I state what I do. They are over spec'd grossly on paper, and are power hungry to boot. Reliabilitywise I have seen a few people with consistent deadband/centering issues due to slop forming in the upper bearing over time from a few people who run em. But not enough people run em up here to state if this is a chronic problem or isolated. One reason being is because most of the serious/harcore racers here use nothing but Hitecs.

And to say people tend to follow the herd, I do agree with this. But reason being is because Hitec in general has a sterling reputation for making a higher than norm quality servo. Thats why they are used soley here for very expensive aerial models where you just can't afford to have a servo go bad. Is Hitec the only quality produced servo on the market? No, but they are IMO from 20 years experience one of the best if not the best still. Savox, I dont think is a bad servo, but for the money spent for real world performance I do feel there are better choices out there.

mgtmadness2007 05-19-2011 07:57 AM

I use airtronics 94359 and 94358 and also DS1015 and airtronics 94162 servos.
My longest lasting servo has been the airtronics 94359 and 94358 going on 8 or 10 years. whenever the Monster GT .21 came out.

bobbyc1127 05-19-2011 02:26 PM

I am not going to throw the former team driver's name out there but what I will say is I have noticed the the current R/C Pro National Champion Mike Battaile who once was a strong Hitec supporter has now switched to Savox. And I was having issues with the Hitec 7954 line. Am I saying Hitecs are Crap if you look back you never once will see me say that. I recall saying that because of the constant failures I had I decided to try a different brand and have not looked back. Another driver that has dropped Hitec servos is a well known driver in Texas and as far as I know he is not running Hitec at this moment is Gary Haggard.

I never once started throwing out there that Hitecs are crap and substandard built. As a matter of fact in my REVO Platinum which I took 5th in the final year of the class in Texas I am running the same 645 servo I put in it right after I got it. I guess to clear it up and to make sure certain people here understand it clearly...I run Savox servos because I have yet to have ANY glitches or issues out of the servos. I run the HI Voltage servos in my MBX 6T and they have plenty of torque for what I want them to do. As of this moment my first year of running open/expert classes I am currently in 10th place in Texas. Take it for what you want. But I know for me as a consumer and the OVER 10 yrs I have been in the hobby and the 7 yrs I have been racing up until I switched from ACE 1015 to the Hitec 7954 I never had a servo issue and it was always on the steering.
In closeing for ME Savox servos are holding up well and until I start having the issues with them I had with the Hitecs I will stay where I am.

ntrain42 05-19-2011 03:46 PM


Originally Posted by bobbyc1127 (Post 9136476)
I am not going to throw the former team driver's name out there but what I will say is I have noticed the the current R/C Pro National Champion Mike Battaile who once was a strong Hitec supporter has now switched to Savox. And I was having issues with the Hitec 7954 line. Am I saying Hitecs are Crap if you look back you never once will see me say that. I recall saying that because of the constant failures I had I decided to try a different brand and have not looked back. Another driver that has dropped Hitec servos is a well known driver in Texas and as far as I know he is not running Hitec at this moment is Gary Haggard.

I never once started throwing out there that Hitecs are crap and substandard built. As a matter of fact in my REVO Platinum which I took 5th in the final year of the class in Texas I am running the same 645 servo I put in it right after I got it. I guess to clear it up and to make sure certain people here understand it clearly...I run Savox servos because I have yet to have ANY glitches or issues out of the servos. I run the HI Voltage servos in my MBX 6T and they have plenty of torque for what I want them to do. As of this moment my first year of running open/expert classes I am currently in 10th place in Texas. Take it for what you want. But I know for me as a consumer and the OVER 10 yrs I have been in the hobby and the 7 yrs I have been racing up until I switched from ACE 1015 to the Hitec 7954 I never had a servo issue and it was always on the steering.
In closeing for ME Savox servos are holding up well and until I start having the issues with them I had with the Hitecs I will stay where I am.

OK, first off you need to REREAD what YOU wrote and edit some of it because some of it doesnt really make much sense.......

Second, you originally mentioned EVERYBODY at a specified race was having their Hitec servo's fail left and right, cursing etc......still havent given much if any details here......

Third, you still have yet to mention even why or what the symptoms were of the "failed" servo(or should I say servos, since one after another failed?). :rolleyes: And not just any servo but the 7954/55 model which has been known as Hitecs most durable servo.

Now ALL electronics fail, and a 0% defect rate just doesn't exist, but plain and simple what your stating I think is just a bit over the top: You had multiple servos fail, everybody else that used Hitecs at the race did too? :rolleyes:

You still didnt explain why you needed someone else to troubleshoot your steering/servo issue? ANd your in "expert" class? LOL! Sorry, things here don't add up.

If you knew about electronics, construction/parts quality etc. and broke down a Hitec 7954 and compared it to say a 1268 Savox, you would immedietly come to the conclusion that the Hitec servo is just built better with more robust parts and assembled with much tighter tolerances and care.

bobbyc1127 05-19-2011 04:03 PM


Originally Posted by ntrain42 (Post 9136797)
OK, first off you need to REREAD what YOU wrote and edit some of it because some of it doesnt really make much sense.......

Second, you originally mentioned EVERYBODY at a specified race was having their Hitec servo's fail left and right, cursing etc......still havent given much if any details here......

Third, you still have yet to mention even why or what the symptoms were of the "failed" servo(or should I say servos, since one after another failed?). :rolleyes: And not just any servo but the 7954/55 model which has been known as Hitecs most durable servo.

Now ALL electronics fail, and a 0% defect rate just doesn't exist, but plain and simple what your stating I think is just a bit over the top: You had multiple servos fail, everybody else that used Hitecs at the race did too? :rolleyes:

You still didnt explain why you needed someone else to troubleshoot your steering/servo issue? ANd your in "expert" class? LOL! Sorry, things here don't add up.

If you knew about electronics, construction/parts quality etc. and broke down a Hitec 7954 and compared it to say a 1268 Savox, you would immedietly come to the conclusion that the Hitec servo is just built better with more robust parts and assembled with much tighter tolerances and care.

apparently sir your a Hitec emplyee or someone who like to keep the pot stirred. The motor tabs kept breaking off in my servos. But I can see no matter what someone says you know all and see all...I am done argueing with you sir. Anyhow I am done with this pissing contest with you. And I do not recall saying EVERYONE at 1 time was having servo issues. Anyway the reason for me leaving is the motor tabs kept letting go and I myself can not afford the $100 per servo. anyway...hope you are happy you got yet another person to step back and shut up.


and growing up I was always taught and thought if you could not figure a problem out then get help from someone who you think knows how to fix the issue. In other words get a 2nd opinion. but of course you being so great I am sure you never require help.



I see the smear campaign by you continues..by the bold areas in your above quote.And another reason I am shutting up is You do not know me nor I you but how dare you sit there at your keyboard and assume what someone does or knows...anyhow I hope you have a good day cause I am done with this.


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