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Tekin Hotwire programming guide?
Hello,
looked everywhere and can't find it. Is there a guide actually? I've bought their Hotwire and they don't even explain how to set it up... :rolleyes: |
No , there is no guide . It is pretty easy once you go through everything and see how it works . Which software version do you have ?
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Originally Posted by Briguy
(Post 8385415)
No , there is no guide . It is pretty easy once you go through everything and see how it works . Which software version do you have ?
I would like to have detailed explanations on each parameter to tune my RX8 right for my needs. Just an example: throttle profiles. C1 etc.. I've no idea what that means.. IMO there should be a manual. Tekin products aren't in the low range of prices so they could do this little effort for their clients. I have the latest version (212 I think). |
It's appears harder than it really is, like all things once you go through it and realize what each setting is, it gets easy..
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Originally Posted by flame56mx
(Post 8385472)
It's appears harder than it really is, like all things once you go through it and realize what each setting is, it gets easy..
I'd rather know from the beginning on what the setting plays, put a value that looks ok for me and change the setting only if I'm not happy with it.. |
I felt the same way the first time I ran the Hotwire, so I went into it slowly and figureed it out. If you have the program open, and right click on the scale, it will explain the options somewhat. You are correct, thinking a manual would be nice, but sometimes the hands on approach is the only way I can learn things..
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Usually what I do to find baseline setup or even a final is look @ the Tekin site here:http://www.teamtekin.com/hotwire/ESCsetups/index.html
Then as you need more of this or that, you can dabble with the hotwire until you feel comfortable with it, and what each setting change feels like..There are alot of people who dont like programmable ecs, because they are more work, but to me, once you set the car on the track, you have to do less with the radio. |
Originally Posted by Pulse_
(Post 8385499)
And how am I supposed to realize what each setting is? Do I have to put a setting, run the car, stop, open the receiver, connect everything to a PC, change the same settings, try again to understand what it does? Every time, for each setting?
I'd rather know from the beginning on what the setting plays, put a value that looks ok for me and change the setting only if I'm not happy with it.. As far as throttle profile. There are 7. 5 are preset and 2 are custom. 1 being the least aggressive(no timing) and 5 being the most aggressive. When you go into the custom 1 and 2, you can fine tune the setting as you like. Also, when you save them, they will stay as is in that profile. So you can save your settings in profile 1 for a certain track then save settings in 2 for another track. There is a nice brief walk through posted by Randy. I will see if I can find it. |
i agree with you. even the set ups dont EXPLAIN what ALL the settings do. like the back of a losi manual. change this and this will happen kind of stuff.
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Thanks for the help :), I'll try to figure it out.
All your messages show a manual is necessary, I'm really surprised Tekin didn't even think about it. What are they waiting? 329$ for a Tekin RX8/T8 combo, 35$ the hotwire and no manual... This is a joke, seriously. Just found this on the web, quite helpful even if it's for the RS Pro. I think it might be the same for the RX8: http://www.carsrcracing.co.uk/?p=188 |
No joke at all. The hotwire software changes and is a fluid option.
We support all our products up front and personal. We had a link up to a "how to" guide but I see it's been removed, on accident of course. If you have specific questions please ask away. I'll get the web guys to post up the document. |
Originally Posted by Randy_Pike
(Post 8386490)
No joke at all. The hotwire software changes and is a fluid option.
We support all our products up front and personal. We had a link up to a "how to" guide but I see it's been removed, on accident of course. If you have specific questions please ask away. I'll get the web guys to post up the document. |
Originally Posted by 1017racing
(Post 8386693)
Thank you, I find the hotwire program gives the basic function of each tab. I hear guys talk about moveing the RPM boost range to get more bottom end. It would be nice of Tekin to publish something like the guys above mention really fine tuning the ESC. Really explaining when to use certain features like boost and turbo.
Randy -> thanks for your help but I can't take you with me at the track :lol: , so a manual/document/whatever that explains in detail what parameter does what would still be a good thing IMO Would be awesome to have the document you're talking about back on the web again:) |
Hi Randy, Marry Christmas,I have a quick question I have an fx how do i save the setting from the hot wire to the speed controller?
Thanks Ron |
The hot-wire is only getting ether and better. Idk if manual would donut justice since there has been such an upgrade from when it first came out, if anything it would probably confuse you a little bit more?
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Originally Posted by noony
(Post 8386736)
Hi Randy, Marry Christmas,I have a quick question I have an fx how do i save the setting from the hot wire to the speed controller?
Thanks Ron |
Originally Posted by Dlewis4
(Post 8387209)
Click... Apply...
Thanks Ron |
I'll chime in on this as well. I own multiple RX8's and love them. Randy and Jim are top notch with their support, but I found this thread because I can find very little information about programming it.
It's not intuitive like Castle's and there are features that I can't seem to change. I don't understand what the max RPM is. I have 2 different KV T8's but they show the same maximum rpm. Even if I wanted to change that I don't see a way to do that. Someone commented on things changing and just confusing people. That statement is very confusing as any software out there for anything changes. Most help is online now. So having a manual pdf out there online that could be changed would behoove Tekin greatly. Things I would like explained or would like to see in future software release. Lose the GUI, keep it simple. Better battery cut-off settings. You cannot set it. You only have a choice of 1s, 2s, etc. What voltage per cell is that cutting off? I would like to choose 3.3v, 3.4v. etc. A numerical throttle and punch control. Power limiter - even a 25%, 50%, 75% option would work. Timing - please explain what is safe? And pros vs cons. Can you damage the motor or ESC with these options? Something to indicate which ESC I am plugged into (for multiple esc's) Something to show that the sensor wire is plugged in and all sensors are working. (I know the lights in the esc show that, but I would like to see something in the Hotwire) Some kind of graph viewer for the data like Castle has. I am sure there are things I am leaving out, but bottom line a manual that I can hold in my hand and reference is preferred. As mentioned we can't take Randy to the track, and I hate asking noob questions and then waiting and hoping for an answer. Tekin RULES, but make it better! * |
Interesting thread. I think an online guide with explanations on what each setting is for and does and is a great idea. You can get lost pretty quickly while changing set ups.
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Originally Posted by johnnyboy
(Post 8414990)
Interesting thread. I think an online guide with explanations on what each setting is for and does and is a great idea. You can get lost pretty quickly while changing set ups.
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Originally Posted by whipnet
(Post 8414800)
I'll chime in on this as well. I own multiple RX8's and love them. Randy and Jim are top notch with their support, but I found this thread because I can find very little information about programming it.
It's not intuitive like Castle's and there are features that I can't seem to change. I don't understand what the max RPM is. I have 2 different KV T8's but they show the same maximum rpm. Even if I wanted to change that I don't see a way to do that. Someone commented on things changing and just confusing people. That statement is very confusing as any software out there for anything changes. Most help is online now. So having a manual pdf out there online that could be changed would behoove Tekin greatly. Things I would like explained or would like to see in future software release. Lose the GUI, keep it simple. Wanna program your ESC with the command line? :-) The GUI is fine Better battery cut-off settings. You cannot set it. You only have a choice of 1s, 2s, etc. What voltage per cell is that cutting off? I would like to choose 3.3v, 3.4v. etc. You can set your own voltage... Just put the slider to the top and you can set for example 14.2V for a 4cell lipo A numerical throttle and punch control. What do think the current limiter is? Power limiter - even a 25%, 50%, 75% option would work. Change your EPA in the radio if you car is too fast or gear it to the track. Set the current limiter good if you have too much wheelspin Timing - please explain what is safe? And pros vs cons. Can you damage the motor or ESC with these options? Read the update PDF of Vegas 208. It's on Tekins website. Don't go above 50 timing. I recommend not more than 33 tho. http://www.teamtekin.com/hotwire/veg...ease-notes.pdf Something to indicate which ESC I am plugged into (for multiple esc's) ???? Plug no more than 1 ESC in your PC and you're fine Something to show that the sensor wire is plugged in and all sensors are working. (I know the lights in the esc show that, but I would like to see something in the Hotwire) I agree Some kind of graph viewer for the data like Castle has. Castle has this only in the HV ESC. Not the normal MMM and MM I am sure there are things I am leaving out, but bottom line a manual that I can hold in my hand and reference is preferred. As mentioned we can't take Randy to the track, and I hate asking noob questions and then waiting and hoping for an answer. Tekin RULES, but make it better! * |
Thanks morgoth, some of that does help.
As far as the GUI, don't be silly, I mean something less of an eye sore and is not buggy like a windows standard. Like Castle. Thanks for the cut-off advice, I was not aware of that. Thanks for the timing info. I have more than one RX8, what do you mean only plug 1 into a PC? I would like to be able to configure all of them and know which one I am currently plugged into. And the graph viewer comment was not a Castle vs Tekin argument, just something I would like to see. Thanks for your help, I do appreciate it. This shows why they need something. * |
We can change all of that. I will look into the suggestions and pass them along.
We've already discussed a "per cell" voltage adjustment that the user can set. This would be say 3.2v per cell and this would then be affected by the onboard interface as well. So 4 led's at 3.2v per cell would net = 12.8v,etc,etc Timing really depends on the setup in question. For the T8 line I've found no reason to go above 50 but have gone all the way to 100 in testing. Some motors respond better to timing, mostly the wye wound motors like the 1900. I often find gearing to be more of first adjustment rather than timing. I have written a few "guides" for our tech department and support departments. I'll work on getting them put together into one doc and get the web guys to post it up. Most of the info you're all looking for is in the update "notes" on the website. |
Originally Posted by whipnet
(Post 8415211)
Thanks morgoth, some of that does help.
As far as the GUI, don't be silly, I mean something less of an eye sore and is not buggy like a windows standard. Like Castle. Thanks for the cut-off advice, I was not aware of that. Thanks for the timing info. I have more than one RX8, what do you mean only plug 1 into a PC? I would like to be able to configure all of them and know which one I am currently plugged into. And the graph viewer comment was not a Castle vs Tekin argument, just something I would like to see. Thanks for your help, I do appreciate it. This shows why they need something. * |
Originally Posted by whipnet
(Post 8415211)
Thanks morgoth, some of that does help.
As far as the GUI, don't be silly, I mean something less of an eye sore and is not buggy like a windows standard. Like Castle. Thanks for the cut-off advice, I was not aware of that. Thanks for the timing info. I have more than one RX8, what do you mean only plug 1 into a PC? I would like to be able to configure all of them and know which one I am currently plugged into. And the graph viewer comment was not a Castle vs Tekin argument, just something I would like to see. Thanks for your help, I do appreciate it. This shows why they need something. * Btw, I forgot to mention some more about the timing. If you wanna change the start and end rpm. Choose timing profile C1 or C2. That are custom profiles that let you choose you own start and end rpm. Start rpm: The moment that the extra timing is starting to kick in. End rpm: The moment that you have the full extra timing that you choose. For example you set 30% timing and 10k start rpm and 20k end rpm. 0-10k rpm: 0% timing 10k rpm: Timing kicks in 10-20k rpm: Timing keeps increasing until you reached 20k rpm and then you timing will be 30%. So when your motor is spinning at 15k rpm you should have about 15% timing. 20k-max rpm: 30% timing I hope this clears up a few things. Happy new everyone! I'm leaving for NYE dinner. |
Originally Posted by Randy_Pike
(Post 8415336)
We can change all of that. I will look into the suggestions and pass them along.
We've already discussed a "per cell" voltage adjustment that the user can set. This would be say 3.2v per cell and this would then be affected by the onboard interface as well. So 4 led's at 3.2v per cell would net = 12.8v,etc,etc Timing really depends on the setup in question. For the T8 line I've found no reason to go above 50 but have gone all the way to 100 in testing. Some motors respond better to timing, mostly the wye wound motors like the 1900. I often find gearing to be more of first adjustment rather than timing. I have written a few "guides" for our tech department and support departments. I'll work on getting them put together into one doc and get the web guys to post it up. Most of the info you're all looking for is in the update "notes" on the website. And guys, I am not plugging 2 esc's into the laptop at once.. HAHA..C'mon! :) I just don't always have them in the vehicle and I don't see why there can't be profile names for the different esc's recognized by Vegas. Thanks again all. * |
Originally Posted by morgoth
(Post 8415507)
Btw, I forgot to mention some more about the timing. If you wanna change the start and end rpm. Choose timing profile C1 or C2. That are custom profiles that let you choose you own start and end rpm.
Start rpm: The moment that the extra timing is starting to kick in. End rpm: The moment that you have the full extra timing that you choose. For example you set 30% timing and 10k start rpm and 20k end rpm. 0-10k rpm: 0% timing 10k rpm: Timing kicks in 10-20k rpm: Timing keeps increasing until you reached 20k rpm and then you timing will be 30%. So when your motor is spinning at 15k rpm you should have about 15% timing. 20k-max rpm: 30% timing I hope this clears up a few things. * |
i'm running vegas 212 and can anybody tell me how to turn it to spec mode
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I stumbled across this today and thought maybe it would help a little with some explanations.
Beginner's Guide |
Originally Posted by nitro neil
(Post 8415843)
i'm running vegas 212 and can anybody tell me how to turn it to spec mode
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Originally Posted by maddfish
(Post 8416013)
I stumbled across this today and thought maybe it would help a little with some explanations.
Beginner's Guide |
Originally Posted by maddfish
(Post 8416013)
I stumbled across this today and thought maybe it would help a little with some explanations.
Beginner's Guide |
Originally Posted by maddfish
(Post 8416013)
I stumbled across this today and thought maybe it would help a little with some explanations.
Beginner's Guide |
Originally Posted by shanty140
(Post 8416084)
I believe it's profile 1. But I would get a second opinion. I am very new to Tekin products.
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Originally Posted by nitro neil
(Post 8415843)
i'm running vegas 212 and can anybody tell me how to turn it to spec mode
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I think my version is Ver 2.7 is it upgradable?I been having problems trying to figure out the website and to adjust the boost and turbo,i don't even see where to adjust!
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Yes it's upgradeable. Www.teamtekin.com/hotwire.HTML
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Originally Posted by Randy_Pike
(Post 8386490)
No joke at all. The hotwire software changes and is a fluid option.
We support all our products up front and personal. We had a link up to a "how to" guide but I see it's been removed, on accident of course. If you have specific questions please ask away. I'll get the web guys to post up the document. Thansk Dave |
Just subscribing to this thread, I would like to see the document as well.
I do have a question about timing, how do you calculate start and end RPM? |
You have to understand how many rpm's each given class and application usually run under. This is the main reason why we have so many team setups.
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