Cheap charger for 4s
#1
Sorry for the noob post, but im new to lipos, and bought a buggy from someone on here with 4s 5000 batteries. Can anyone point me in the direction of a good/inexpensive charger than can charge these batteries at 5a?
Thanks
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#4
Joined: Jul 2008
Posts: 11,530
From: Houston, TX
Chargers are rated by output power. This output power sets what the charger can do as far as current at a give voltage (cell count). What fools a lot is that a 50watt charger is rated for up to 6S (22.2v nominal). What they don't tell you is the charger reduces charge rate to stay under its power limit and although the charger will charge that 6S, it will take literally hours to finish a charge.
If your 4S is a 5000, a 1C charge takes 84watts, so an 80watt charge will not let you do a full 1C (5amp) charge - 80/16.8 = 4.76a will be all the charge current allowed under its 80watt limit. This will increase charging time.
The GT Power (2nd link) is 200watts and would be powerful enough to do a full 1C charge rate. This is a DC charger and will need a separate power supply. I've been using mine since before last Xmas and its been a good charger.
There are some options with AC/DC chargers, but they're more expensive.
If your 4S is a 5000, a 1C charge takes 84watts, so an 80watt charge will not let you do a full 1C (5amp) charge - 80/16.8 = 4.76a will be all the charge current allowed under its 80watt limit. This will increase charging time.
The GT Power (2nd link) is 200watts and would be powerful enough to do a full 1C charge rate. This is a DC charger and will need a separate power supply. I've been using mine since before last Xmas and its been a good charger.
There are some options with AC/DC chargers, but they're more expensive.
#5
Chargers are rated by output power. This output power sets what the charger can do as far as current at a give voltage (cell count). What fools a lot is that a 50watt charger is rated for up to 6S (22.2v nominal). What they don't tell you is the charger reduces charge rate to stay under its power limit and although the charger will charge that 6S, it will take literally hours to finish a charge.
If your 4S is a 5000, a 1C charge takes 84watts, so an 80watt charge will not let you do a full 1C (5amp) charge - 80/16.8 = 4.76a will be all the charge current allowed under its 80watt limit. This will increase charging time.
The GT Power (2nd link) is 200watts and would be powerful enough to do a full 1C charge rate. This is a DC charger and will need a separate power supply. I've been using mine since before last Xmas and its been a good charger.
There are some options with AC/DC chargers, but they're more expensive.
If your 4S is a 5000, a 1C charge takes 84watts, so an 80watt charge will not let you do a full 1C (5amp) charge - 80/16.8 = 4.76a will be all the charge current allowed under its 80watt limit. This will increase charging time.
The GT Power (2nd link) is 200watts and would be powerful enough to do a full 1C charge rate. This is a DC charger and will need a separate power supply. I've been using mine since before last Xmas and its been a good charger.
There are some options with AC/DC chargers, but they're more expensive.
Ok, great! Thanks everyone for your input. I'll order teh GT power so I dont shoot myself in the foot in the long run.
Will any power supply work? Like from a laptop? If not, any specific one I should get from hc.com?
Like this one from HC.com?
I cant post links, but this is the title of it
IMAX Power Supply 100~240v 5A
Last edited by GaRsNoW; 05-12-2010 at 02:50 PM.
#6
Chargers are rated by output power. This output power sets what the charger can do as far as current at a give voltage (cell count). What fools a lot is that a 50watt charger is rated for up to 6S (22.2v nominal). What they don't tell you is the charger reduces charge rate to stay under its power limit and although the charger will charge that 6S, it will take literally hours to finish a charge.
If your 4S is a 5000, a 1C charge takes 84watts, so an 80watt charge will not let you do a full 1C (5amp) charge - 80/16.8 = 4.76a will be all the charge current allowed under its 80watt limit. This will increase charging time.
The GT Power (2nd link) is 200watts and would be powerful enough to do a full 1C charge rate. This is a DC charger and will need a separate power supply. I've been using mine since before last Xmas and its been a good charger.
There are some options with AC/DC chargers, but they're more expensive.
If your 4S is a 5000, a 1C charge takes 84watts, so an 80watt charge will not let you do a full 1C (5amp) charge - 80/16.8 = 4.76a will be all the charge current allowed under its 80watt limit. This will increase charging time.
The GT Power (2nd link) is 200watts and would be powerful enough to do a full 1C charge rate. This is a DC charger and will need a separate power supply. I've been using mine since before last Xmas and its been a good charger.
There are some options with AC/DC chargers, but they're more expensive.
You are always on point man.
#7
Joined: Jul 2008
Posts: 11,530
From: Houston, TX
Ok, great! Thanks everyone for your input. I'll order teh GT power so I dont shoot myself in the foot in the long run.
Will any power supply work? Like from a laptop? If not, any specific one I should get from hc.com?
Like this one from HC.com?
I cant post links, but this is the title of it
IMAX Power Supply 100~240v 5A
Will any power supply work? Like from a laptop? If not, any specific one I should get from hc.com?
Like this one from HC.com?
I cant post links, but this is the title of it
IMAX Power Supply 100~240v 5A
To run the GT Power Charger at max power, you need 220 watts or so (chargers have some inefficiency), so if the supply is 12v, you'd need 18.3 amps. Practicallyspeaking, you'd need a 20amp supply. HC has one that would do, but the cost of shipping something as heavy as a big power supply is not what you want to do. This would run it at full power -
http://www.amainhobbies.com/product_...-138V-20A-260W
This would also run it, it wouldn't be at full power, but would be more than enough to charge 4S at full 1C charge rate -
http://www.amainhobbies.com/product_...-138V-10A-130W
Thanks dude!!
#8
Joined: Apr 2009
Posts: 3,055
Good catch Duster! I rarely charge faster than 0.5C, so I forget that everyone wants to charge at maximum capacity. The first link would cut back amperage once the batteries voltage peaked out. The 200W charger would be better anyways, it will allow you to move up easily when or if you are ready.
#10
Joined: Jul 2008
Posts: 11,530
From: Houston, TX
Wait til this comes back in stock -
http://www.amainhobbies.com/product_...-138V-10A-130W
Or this (but its going to be expensive to ship) -
http://www.hobbycity.com/hobbycity/s...100~240V_12.5A
http://www.amainhobbies.com/product_...-138V-10A-130W
Or this (but its going to be expensive to ship) -
http://www.hobbycity.com/hobbycity/s...100~240V_12.5A
#11
Thanks duster for all your help.
I'm really torn on what to do right now. I dont want to shoot myself in the foot incase I go 6s down the road... If I go with the smaller charger and the power supply from hc.com, will I charge a 5000 25c 6s fine? Will it just take longer?
I'm really torn on what to do right now. I dont want to shoot myself in the foot incase I go 6s down the road... If I go with the smaller charger and the power supply from hc.com, will I charge a 5000 25c 6s fine? Will it just take longer?
#12
Joined: Jul 2008
Posts: 11,530
From: Houston, TX
Yes, it will charge the 6S just fine. It will just take longer since the 6S at 1C requires more charger output power than the 80watt charger can supply.
Thats puts you into that current limiting mode which basically means instead of charging at 5amps, you'll be charging at 3.1amps.
Thats puts you into that current limiting mode which basically means instead of charging at 5amps, you'll be charging at 3.1amps.
#14
Joined: Jul 2008
Posts: 11,530
From: Houston, TX
The GT Power charger? If thats the one, mine came with the USB cable, but when I bought mine it was $70 and I don't know if they've dropped some of what it used to come with to get the price down or not. The ad still shows a cable, so I'd expect to find one when it arrives.



