I hope I don't offend anyone with my last post. I will agree that deans can be a pain to solder if you don't have much experience doing so but IMO they are still the best, I like their small size though.

Deans! I ripped off the traxxas crap as soon as I got my Rustler and Revo. I hate them. Deans are much easier to install and they're cheap. Deans are everywhere.

Another thing occurs to me

Why reinvent the wheel?

Deans plugs are proven and work great and the last thing this hobby needs is more connector types.

Traxxas and Losi shouldn't have wasted their time on engineering new connectors.

There's nothing really wrong with the Traxxas connectors I just think it further complicates the hobby especially for the new comers.

It may just be cheaper to design and manufacture your own high-current connector for your RTRs than license and buy/stock Dean's connectors. Plus, Traxxas obviously has a large enough share of the market to make things like that worthwhile - most of the places that sell batteries now offer three kinds of connectors: "Tamiya", Traxxas, and Deans.

Regarding soldering problems, and getting too much heat into the connector, use flux. Makes it so much easier, quicker and a better connection.

Make sure its electronic safe, preferably no clean flux

Or it may end up a corroded mess...

Who cares which plugs you use, both are decent, just pick one and make all your stuff that... Simple.

I don't understand not being able to solder deans, they give you a whole tab to solder on to and the solder flows very easily on it... Tin the wire, put a drop off solder on the tab, put tinned wire on tab, touch with soldering iron, remove soldering iron, hold in place until it hardens. Tada. Simple.

Hey dudes
First of all I have been running cars since 1985. The tamiya plugs were the first plug connector pretty much out and they were in expensive thats why they are still here. They were always cut off or replaced because they metal piece pulled out of the plastic. Anytime somone bought a car pack that is the first upgrade people made to go fast. Over the years companies said that there was voltage loss while trying to sell there plugs, thats crap. I am an electician and a electircal engineer and the resistance from direct soldering or using connectors like tamiya, deans, sermos or traxxas is so minimal that if you could tell a difference then u must be a genious cause you cant. Sermos were used as the hop up for tamiya plugs but the only down side is the sometimes slide out of each other. Deans plugs I dont like cause theres no grip to pull apart and you always have to pull on the wire pulling it out of the connector. The traxxas plug is a good plug because it has grip you can pull it apart good and they dont slide off from each other. Also to there is no heat shrink u need like to have to on Deans. So all these big name companies and drivers who direct solder to get the advantage all your doing is just making the process longer. It might make u feel better but a plug is not gonna win the race for ya. So anybody who dissagrees with me thats fine, just prove me wrong. Ill be waiting..............

You really should recheck your data, if you have any, because the resistance as well as the poor quality of the Tamiya plugs have been noted and proven many times since your first days in RCing. But maybe you were asleep and missed it.

And really, and electrical engineer would never suggest something as silly as you are -- so it really makes me question your experience or eduction, or both.

wow trixter just wow. you have freakin clue.
if you are the electrical engineer you say you are then i would find a new line of work.
the reason the pros direct solder everything is it will cause a zero resistance. and the chance of it coming disconnected is nilch.
the tamiya plugs are junk after use. they are somwhat ok if you never have to disconnect them.
i have seen them melt why. high resistance.

i am a mechanic and my specialty is electric.
there are some big no-no's in some repair. air bags, anything computer controller and anti-lock brakes.
if you do not direct solder these wires you will not fix the problem why because they are so dependant on resistance of the wire. if its off the lcomputer will not rear the correct value. basic ohms law.

i did not start this thread really to try and compare deans to traxxas to sermos to the new losi connectors.
my main problem was the sermos are a pain with my kids. yes i could glue the ends together but if i need to replace i will destry the connectors.
i tried to use the deans and they could not get them apart.
so i was asking what is the durability of the traxxas connectors over time.

if i was a serious racer and it was just me doing everything yes i would use deans but since that is not the case i asked the question.

and wfo do you really think that the added weight of the traxxas compared to the deans will make you not finish first. there is what about 1/2 ounce if that between the 2. if you make the wires the correct length you wont have the problem. both will flop around the same.

Yes, so easy to do. I use Deans and use Traxxas on my E-Maxx, prefer the Deans since I mainly race micro and the plugs are smaller. If you cover the entire connector and a little of the wire below with a larger heat-shrink its near impossible to pull by the wires. If you solder the authentic Deans well they are easier than Traxxas plugs to disconnect.

In racing, as you should know, every little bit of weight loss is generally a good thing - especially if it's weight that's flopping around.
Will it make a difference, likely no - yet at the same time a heavier plug does pull harder on the wires (and loom) and increases the possibility of breaking a wire during a race (which I have had happen, so I tend to do everything within my power to make sure it doesn't happen again).

i am currently having the same problem. deans or traxxas? here is my question:
if i want to try the traxxas for a bit and use an adapter while doing so, is that a problem? if both connectors are supposed to be loss free...it shouldn't be a problem?

thanks

Dawg
You make a valid point about direct soldering with no resistance but the point Im making was that the resistance with the Traxxas connector is like .ooo12 or something so low that its like is it really worth it to direct solder if you can use a connector and if you can drive it and tell the difference then you are the man cause I sure cant. Also to sure I love to save all the weight I can but a connector is not gonna break ya. Now maybe as a mechanic and the stuff you do like computers or airbags that might be the case but not here. And as for a new line or work Id love to have an office somewhere drink my coffee and yell at people while I play on ebay or something. Sounded like you took offense to what I said but Im just saying, it is what it is.

WFO
Apparently you werent listening. Tamiya connectors suck thats why nobody uses them. With a traxxas plug providesd that it dosent pull apart which it shouldnt cause they are a tight fit its as good as a direct solder joint cause the loss in resistance is so low you wont see a difference Im not backing the tamiya connector so whats your beef.

WFO
Witha traxxas plug its big enough that you can pull the connectors apart from the plug with grip not the wires. With the deans they are smooth small and no grip and if the heat shrink gets nicked they can short out, so how can u like those better Im just curious they seem more easy to create problems.