im not going to get in a debate with you wof.
the tamiya are still used on almost every manufacter of rc's except traxxas now.
im not sure about the aftermarket esc's now but im sure some still sue them.

I'm not debating you either, but instead just pointing out that you were wrong.
Whether tamiya plugs are used by almost every manufacturer of RCs, they long have been because they're cheap and plentifull, doesn't change the fact that they've never been popular with endusers as you suggested.

For those of you that are having problems gripping your deans plugs;

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Never had problems with the deans. I have seen people use a little graphite on them or dielectric grease (which you can find at most auto supply stores), and it supposedly helps. I've also seen people that have drilled a small hole (not very deep) into the side of each connector to accommodate snap ring pliers for separating the connector. Guess I've just been lucky with mine so far.

Also, soldering deans connectors is a whole lot easier if you've got a really, really, hot iron with a large-ish tip. A whole lotta heat, in and out fast is the way to go. I never solder with less than a 45 watt iron.

The traxxas plugs seem decent enough I guess (a little bulky though), but it seems to me that, a plug with a connector that snaps into a holder will eventually become a plug with a connector that snaps out of a holder. Who knows, they may turn out to be the best thing since sliced whatever.

As far as adapters someone mentioned, I do a lot of testing stuff at work so, I've got a box with every possible combination of plugs and they sure do come in handy. :smile:

I use Deans. Mainly because I can get them at our local electrical wholesaler. No hobby shops around to buy any plugs from.

I had a lot of trouble with soldering them. Until I learner to solder properly!

They are easy to pull apart if you are a real man. Practice by slugging beers and crushing the cans with one hand :sweat:

I like the traxxas connectors. they came on my slash and they seem to be holding up great. I agree that most people have more than one battery and I also carry adapters because I still have batteries with tamiya connectors on them.

+1 :lol:

I've always considered it a good thing that plugs didn't come apart easily, and personally I don't mind the extra half a second I have to spend to take Deans Plugs apart.

While the bulkier traxxas plugs might be good for the digit-dexterity-imparied, my other concern with them is that their heavier weight and bulk flopping around adds more stress to my ESC and battery wires which could lead to pulling a wire loose or breaking one at an inopportune time and just doesn't seem like a great idea.

Yea man i agree with that. I want a plug that doesn't come apart. Plus they are deans plugs ! Seriously i was hardwire guy till lipo then i was using bullets till i realised the wear out easy and cause issues.

Thing is man the guy who started this thread wants to use traxxas connectors !

You can't convince poeple on rc forums when they have their mind set on something

Interesting site, thanks!

NP. Check out the knowledge base. Whether you're new to brushless or an experienced hand winder, there's a lot of useful information in the GBKB. :)

Good point.

I remember way back when were were still using the original (4-prong) deans plugs, designed for the computer industry, that were not near as good as today's Ultra Plugs - and a company came out with a plug eerily similar in design and concept as the "supposedly new" traxxass plug. And they never caught on either. Part was availability, part was that so many people were using Deans, so to me unless they come out with something that proves itself better (or has high flex ultra wire already soldered on) than what's already universally available it'll have a hard time taking over any viable share of the market. :nod:

You can get a 10 pack (20 connectors total) of those "ribbed" Deans type connectors for ~$9.50 shipped at www.hobbycity.com.

Personally I've been running deans ultra plugs forever and never had a problem with them. They don't fall apart and I have yet to wear one out. I've made one Traxxas plug and had an issue with one of the pins pushing out. I fixed it easy enough but I've never encountered this problem with Deans as the pins are molded into the body. From and engineering stand point I will stay with Deans since they have a near bullet proof design and can handle very large currents without even a hint of overheating. I've actually used these to make car audio amplifiers easily removable and they've worked flawlessly.



FYI The so called "Tamiya" connector is really a 2 pin Molex connector. These are quite possibly the worst power connectors I've ever had to deal with (and still deal with at work). If not crimped perfectly the pins pop out or become misaligned. Not only that but they wear out quickly and cause severe power loss problems. It really makes me wonder why so many electronics use Molex connectors as a standard, but I guess they are fairly cheap.

For those of you who claim Deans plugs are too hard to pull apart, you may be causing that when you solder them on. If you get too much heat in the plug when you solder it you can actually heat up the plastic enough to let the prong move which will cause the alignment to be off, thus making them harder to pull apart. When I solder any Deans plug I always plug two together. By doing this it will keep the prongs from moving and causing the tight fit. A properly installed plug will have very little resistance when pulling apart but will still fit together snug and won't come apart.

Everybody does their own thing, BUT.... I have no problem helpin' people out when i can and I often lend newer guys batteries etc. I just laugh to myself when they need a battery or motor (yes I use plugs on those too sorry) and they got somethin' OTHER than deans.. just my opinion.....9 out of 10 guys have deans, the other guy just hasn't figured it out yet..:lol:

I had a heck of a time solder deans. I think I don't have a hot enough iron. I kept melting the plastic too much. I did do the plugging 2 together thing.

Then soldered the traxxas for my kids slashs and it was a whole lot easier because you can solder the pieces out of the plastic.

I'd like to see some testing on the two different style plugs. I think a lot of guys are down on them because they are "traxxas".

But I also see the point that most racers use them so if you do need to borrow something, it makes sense to me.

Adapters just cause more resistance.