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Roelof 11-22-2024 12:59 PM


Originally Posted by Bcollins82 (Post 16144937)
https://cimg6.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.rct...46c4cf023.jpeg
Looks like orders are headed out the door. As someone who has worked shipping stuff out of a small shop, 947 in a week is crazy. Boxing, labeling, and shipping is a time consuming task.. Hopefully all is smooth from here out.

I wonder.... 1000 customers for a one man business??
With the handfull of engines I have modded I can also write that I have done 947 engines.

gigaplex 11-23-2024 12:54 AM


Originally Posted by RC10Nick (Post 16145389)
they're definitely using an OEM - it's just not possible for a 1 man business to design, manufacture, and develop firmware for a truly custom one-off ESC. With that said, one thing many OEMs are great at is allowing the customer to spec out a product however they want, so even if the ESC is coming from ZTW it's still more likely than not that you can't get the exact same ESC anywhere other than PPRC.

Besides, there can't be any more than 5 ESC OEMs in the world (honestly I'd be surprised if t was more than 3), but there sure is a heck of a lot more ESC brands being sold than that.

That's the thing. Any of the other brands can make the same requests. There's nothing uniquely innovative about paying extra for higher spec FETs or checking a few boxes for the firmware feature list.

RC10Nick 11-23-2024 06:18 AM


Originally Posted by gigaplex (Post 16145492)
That's the thing. Any of the other brands can make the same requests. There's nothing uniquely innovative about paying extra for higher spec FETs or checking a few boxes for the firmware feature list.

All that is possible but all that is also speculation. Only Brian and his OEM will know exactly what's in those ESCs, and it's also entirely possible Brian paid to have his own unique features put in especially for his ESCs and only his ESCs - that's another things OEMs will do.

Point is we can't know for sure so it feels weird to dogpile on him for something you can't even verify. Meanwhile he's publicly beefing with Exalt and it's... not a good look.


Originally Posted by trilerian (Post 16145403)
Challenge accepted.

Can't wait to see your ESC hit the market. When you do expect it will be ready to sell?

trilerian 11-23-2024 08:32 AM


Originally Posted by RC10Nick (Post 16145521)
Can't wait to see your ESC hit the market. When you do expect it will be ready to sell?

My first ESC will be in the form of a motor analyzer. As for a timeline, I haven't the faintest idea, lol. I'm not trying to be flippant, I just have a very full plate for the foreseeable future.

gigaplex 11-23-2024 10:56 AM


Originally Posted by RC10Nick (Post 16145521)
All that is possible but all that is also speculation. Only Brian and his OEM will know exactly what's in those ESCs, and it's also entirely possible Brian paid to have his own unique features put in especially for his ESCs and only his ESCs - that's another things OEMs will do.

Point is we can't know for sure so it feels weird to dogpile on him for something you can't even verify. Meanwhile he's publicly beefing with Exalt and it's... not a good look.

Do we really need to know for sure? He's made some pretty wild claims about how he himself has been doing innovative engineering for the ESC. We're allowed to be sceptical.

Bcollins82 11-24-2024 07:25 AM


Originally Posted by Cinnabun (Post 16145383)
Are you saying pro performance and team powers both don't use ZTW as their OEM? come on, there is nothing innovative about PPRC if you actually do research.


Of course I know ZTW is the manufacturer for both, along with Trinity, Fantom, Reds, etc… I’ve owned all of these mentioned besides Reds. They all drive completely differently… You can literally hear the Trinity screaming when you hit the brakes over all the cars on the track. Just because they’re all manufactured in the same place does not mean they’re the same ESC. Some won’t pay for premium components, and the programming is absolutely different from manufacturer to manufacturer. I’m unbiased, which is why I’ve tried so many different brands. But when one stands out above the rest, I’ll give credit where it’s due. The Pro Performance ESCs and servos are the best I’ve tried. I’ll take my firsthand experiences over your online “research” any day. Lol

OffRoadJunkie 11-25-2024 08:12 AM


Originally Posted by gigaplex (Post 16145582)
Do we really need to know for sure? He's made some pretty wild claims about how he himself has been doing innovative engineering for the ESC. We're allowed to be sceptical.


The definition of "Skeptical" is "to have a doubt." In other words, being skeptical is the same as having an opinion. So, your opinion is "It isn't a fact until it is proven." Everyone has a right to their own opinion.

OffRoadJunkie 11-25-2024 08:29 AM


Originally Posted by youngrigo (Post 16144631)
The only problem i see is that when asked to "PLEASE send me my money back" the only response if the product hasn't shipped should be "YES absolutely". Afterwards if Brian doesn't want him on the team anymore he has the right to kick him out. But to say your only option is A) Patience or B) Get kicked out.... I have a problem with that.

Either ship the guys things out or refund him his money if you cant ship it out because you're to busy. Its honestly pretty simple and it would have never came to this.... My .02


I agree. That Brian guy seems a little arrogant in his responses. That customers reply didn't sound unreasonable at all. You have a company that brags about supporting it's racers, but you can't even get them the product in a reasonable time or respond in a professional way. I get he's busy, but that should be a disclosure right before checking out. "Due to the high volume of sales, please expect a delivery time of up to 3 weeks. Your patience will be greatly appreciated."

With that guy's feedback, Brian probably lost a couple dozen customers due to the fear of being scammed.


hunterdawg 11-25-2024 09:31 AM


Originally Posted by OffRoadJunkie (Post 16145935)
I agree. That Brian guy seems a little arrogant in his responses. That customers reply didn't sound unreasonable at all. You have a company that brags about supporting it's racers, but you can't even get them the product in a reasonable time or respond in a professional way. I get he's busy, but that should be a disclosure right before checking out. "Due to the high volume of sales, please expect a delivery time of up to 3 weeks. Your patience will be greatly appreciated."

With that guy's feedback, Brian probably lost a couple dozen customers due to the fear of being scammed.

Actually he did. I was on there at the time. He had it crystal clear there was a delay.

OffRoadJunkie 11-25-2024 11:08 AM

He advertises that he has motors. I checked out his site and did not see any.

youngrigo 11-25-2024 12:30 PM

The lesson here should be that if someone pays for a product (Regardless of who the seller is) and then request a refund as long as it hasn't shipped an immediate refund should be sent. If that had happened this thread would not be what it is today. I'm not just talking about Pro Performance but any business that sells and ships stuff out.

Bcollins82 11-25-2024 12:33 PM


Originally Posted by OffRoadJunkie (Post 16145967)
He advertises that he has motors. I checked out his site and did not see any.

The motors are in production now, they won’t be in stock for a few more months.

hunterdawg 11-25-2024 12:36 PM


Originally Posted by youngrigo (Post 16145989)
The lesson here should be that if someone pays for a product (Regardless of who the seller is) and then request a refund as long as it hasn't shipped an immediate refund should be sent. If that had happened this thread would not be what it is today. I'm not just talking about Pro Performance but any business that sells and ships stuff out.

oh, you mean like the company that takes your money for tires, sends tracking info, then never sends tires. Seems like he had alot of defenders on here.

Roelof 11-25-2024 02:09 PM


Originally Posted by hunterdawg (Post 16145994)
oh, you mean like the company that takes your money for tires, sends tracking info, then never sends tires. Seems like he had alot of defenders on here.

If you create online a shipping order then yes, you get the info a shipping order was made and with that a tracking number. As long the tracking does not go into received package then it is still at the shop.

EricW 11-26-2024 11:27 AM

FYI, this guy Brian Mills just posted on the Facebook page "iCharger Info/Tips/How-to’s Group" an advertisement for the 100 amp ANNIHILATOR discharger. And surprise, the discharger is out of stock. But of course they'll still take your money.


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